#Anonymous,
Posted:May 07 2002 at 7:56 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) from now on, lets all forget the hobbit, forget halflings, and d&d. lets concetrate on the eye of veeshan. ok?
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 02 2002 at 8:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) where u say it's been killed with 600 people, it was killed using an exploit, the sleeper has 2.4 billion HP and even usin g 2000dmg attacks it would take a few days to take it down because of it's large amount of HP
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 20 2002 at 2:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I totally agree with you but on one thing...Kerafyrm doesn't have 2.4 billion HPs...He got as much HPs as he wants because he can't be killed...No matter how much manaburn you land on him...How many HT sk do...No matter anything he can't be harmed...He was there for an event...
#Anonymous,
Posted:Apr 29 2002 at 9:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) sleepr has been killed on nameless server by the most uber guild must be levelv 60 with epic to join and they have over 600 people in guild they raid sleeper kill it with 50 sks and 100 wizzies plus all the others but it was the sks and wizzide most part.
Its incredibly stupid how people are... 1 sever with 600 epics and level 60's is VERY rare... I dont think it has happened yet. (Dont flame me!) Also, the zone would crash with that many people. 50 level 60 SK's all HT at the same time with no resists would equal 30050 damage... not even enough to kill the prekunark Cazic Thule. 100 wizards in a guild with a total of 600 people? Assuming that COULD happen, and assuming there is no resists and no Deathtouches, and all wizards have trained in Spell casting mastery, the total damage by the wizards is 180,000dmg. Add that to the '50 Sk's harmtouching' and youve got 210k damage... still not enough to kill and semi difficult mob. From your post, I can tell three things about you: 1. You are twelve years old 2. You play a halfling druid, and its about level 20 3. You think that this 'Uber' guild needs you and you tried to apply for it
One more thing: This is my friend -->.<-- Her name is 'Period' She likes to go at the end of sentences so people know when a sentence ends. She wants to be YOUR friend!
Before you try to impress everyone with your... uh.... 'Knowledge' of Everquest, try to get the facts right, AND make sure you make good use of Ms. Period!
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 22 2002 at 9:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hmm... I just thought of something INCREDIBLY funny! Don't you find it ironic that 150+ people raid Sleeper and yet NO ONE has a pic of his corpse? HA HAHAHA HAAHAHA... no.
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 01 2002 at 6:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) before U think about posting stuff plz know the info u post. For your info the Sleeper has been waken up before and HAS NEVER BEEN KILLED BY A PLAYER only a gm I don't care how uber a guild is the sleeper will never be killed by a guild or guilds b/c the sleeper can't be killed. If u don't believe me go ask a gm and he will tell u the same thing
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 01 2002 at 6:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) opps sry forgot to say U DUMBASS NOOB
Alright, first off, this isn't actually Veeshan's Eye. An Eye is a term that is assigned to a person who serves the Ruler, like a kind of spy. Thus Veeshan's Eye means that this guy is just her uber servant. He goes out and acts on her behalf, doing what she can't do cause she isn't there, bla bla. That's about it, though. The Hand is the same thing, just they are more like assassians. Atleast thats what it is historically, might not apply to EQ terms, but that would explain why it is a Fae-Drake rather than a beholder thing =D
Just tryin to bring a touch of real world history to these boards.
Let the flamings commence =D
PS: Veeshan may actually exist here. Don't forget, this is a different plane of existance, thus the normal laws of space and time do not apply. Perhaps you grow to enormous sizes when you enter the plane, and only a God can leave it without actually being magically transported back =) Just some food for thought.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Feb 23 2002 at 8:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Looks like one of those ***** lvl 8 drake hatchlings in Lfay...and all this time i though it was some big *** claw just floating in the air...o well verant dissappoints me again.
The "movie" they refer to is the intro movie that was given to us with Velious. It goes into more detail about Veeshan marking Norrath and her laying the First Brood, as I recall.
#REDACTED,
Posted:Feb 14 2002 at 6:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) some people can be so cool in EQ, then some can be some of the biggest ******** in the whole world...like the people who were in Icewell Keep destroying all the NO DROP loot when they could have easily just gaven it to me cuz i was standing right there trying to get some phat armor. Royal Velium Frosted (sp?) is awesome for a war like me with crusty outfit.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Feb 03 2002 at 12:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I was reading some of these posts at the bottom on the sleeper, no the sleeper is not Veeshan and he is not level 200 more like level 80. The Sleeper's Actual name is Karafrym and he is the son of Nagitha and Lady Vox. Well if anyone here knows dragon lore what makes The Sleeper so powerful is the law that says Dragons of different colors are not to Breed but hey they did anyways, and response to Karafrym being born Veeshan put a sleep spell on him and had him guarded by 7 of her warders to make sure he was never awoke. Each warder is above level 60 and drops really phat loot. When he awakes he remains in velious Zones before taking of from skyshrine to go kick Veeshans ***. I think he goes from his tomb to Dragon necropolis to skyshrine and another zone was in there and he pretty much kills everything there. So in short the sleeper is not Veeshan but might as well be as powerful and he has been killed even though it was because of and exploit so dont worry after we find everything out about Luclin he might be able to be killed without use of the exploit.
I agree with most that has been said in this thread, with one exception, The Sleeper IS NOT the offsping of Naggy and Vox. Naggy and Vox were going to mate to produce another hybrid dragon, RoS found out about these plans and vanquished them both.
All very accurate except I think there are four warders??? Also Sleeper spawns after all warders have been killed and will first obliterate whatever guild is in there raiding his tomb and then will kill mostly everyone in Velious (NPCs also say different things while he is spawned 'cause they are scared sh**less) until he despawns, supposedly flying away to pay Veeshan a visit until he's put back to sleep. If he's ever killed on a server he will not spawn again.
So, if he is not killed, he will still be there? So can we theoretically wake the sleeper every Thursday night, watch him wreak havoc over Norrath and the planes, and wait until he goes back to sleep before we begin to cheer, and wait a certain amount of time to wake him again? That would be cool, although I know alot of people would die but it's all for the sake of goodfun. :)
After his awakening he zones into one zone,(I forget the name lol) And then to Skyshrine, where he kicks...Geez I cant remember the big dragon in skyshrine either, anyway, he kicks his ***, and then despawns, forever, the script is rewritten, he never comes back again on the server.
#REDACTED,
Posted:Jan 05 2002 at 4:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Who said veeshan is lower lev than this? Veeshan has never been found yet.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jan 05 2002 at 3:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Im going to puke all over myself after reading all these posts(i did not read that huge post by that moron) or i would have drowned in my own puke if i did.
Veeshan does not exist in the game therefore it has no level but if it did exist it'd be like level 3000. It is arguably the most powerful god (the nameless excluded because he's above a god)
OK to everyone here saying Tolkien did not create Halflings. Yes he most certainly did. Tolkiens books were released shortly after World War 1, which most certainly predates any D&D Games. Also, Tolkien only created Hobbits/Halflings. All the others he took from myths and stories of different cultures. After tall, that was the man's job. He was a Professor who tought about that. If anyone has any more information about Tolkien or what he created I would really like to hear it.
Indeed he wrote the books as a language exercise (his primary occupation was as a linguist) He also added many things (Hobbits, Orcs, the Balrog, etc..) in order to give england its own mythology. He felt that there hadnt been any real english myths since King Arthur and thats probably why he created a fantasy setting such as he did
I allways thought that Orcs were a crossbreed of goblins and elvs. I have a tolkien encyclopedia somewhere around here (yes, im a dork :b) ill be sure to look it up.
He did create the hobbits and the halflings (same thing). They are part gnome part human and have little use. Elves are magical, great, powerful, and have healing powers like no other race. Humans have little use too so halflings are not alone. Well so are ogres and trolls and darkies they are all evil and do the earth no good.
gnomes were never in tolkein's work. halflings are not useless, in fact a quest to save the fate of middle earth was entrusted to a halfing because of the resiliance towards evil. elves are not magical in the sense of enchanters and wizards, but after living for a few thousand years you learn how to control certain powers already in the world. humans are one of the most important races. they were the ones who formed the aliance with the elves and defeated sauron in the second age. gondor, the city of men, guarded the rest of middle earth against the strength of mordor. as the fine sean bean said: "by the blood of our [gondor's] people are your lands kept safe." also, aragorn, the king of men, was called elfstone, precious to all races, known throughout the world as one who would unite the world of men and inherit middle earth from the elves.
you should read the material your attempting to talk about first. it'll make you sound slightly more intelligent.
He also created the Balrog, and Orc's. In the first age according to the Silmarillion, Orcs were created out of deformed captured elve's. they were deformed through the magic of Morgoth i believe, correct me if i am wrong, but i dont think i am. He was one of the original Valinor who held a grudge against the rest of the valinor and Illuvitar, the creator of them all.
Well, Melkor was one of the Ainur, the choir who sprang from the thoughts of Iluvatar, presumably to Tolkien's world what The Nameless is to EQ. The Ainur sprang from the thoughts of Iluvatar, and are similar to the deities in EQ in that they are lesser than the Nameless. They sang the songs of Iluvatar for ages. Melkor, like Lucifer in the Bible, was greater than any Ainur and got a huge ego. He began singing his own song, a discordant tune and this was his uprising.
Somewhere along the line, the world was created and the Ainur became the Valinor, like the spirits of the earth. Melkor was still an evil loner, and began meddling in the affairs of the Valinor. He created the Balrogs, horrific, gigan blazing demons with whips of flame.When the Children of Iluvatar appeared, he deformed them. The Elves he twisted into the Orcs, the grunts of his army, who preferred death over their lives of misery. The Trolls were made to mock the Ents, and although the Trolls were powerful by the standards of Elves, Dwarves, Hobbits, and Men, the Ents were stronger still.
I'm going to stop before I type the Silmarillion all over again. Buy it or borrow it from your local library.
Thank you for your time, and I apologize for going so far off topic. :)
Correct me if I am wrong but Tolkien also "created" the elvish language. Read that somewhere *shrug*. Anyways just pointing out how cool this author really is.
First off, all of that info can be obtained in the original EQ Manual :P
Second, halflings existed before "The Hobbit" and have been in many, many roleplaying games since. Obviously you haven't played any of them. There is, however, one thing that Verant did steal from Tolkien, and that is Rivervale. Vale and Dale are synonimous to eachother, and therefor Rivervale = Riverdale.
I could be wrong, but I believe Tolkien came up with Hobbits first. D&D then used them but had to change the name to Halflings because the name Hobbit was protected.
a u makin fun of him cuz he hasnt played as many video games as u? lol. The fact that u read his long post shows ure a big moron and ure makin fun of him for not playin video games hahaha. Maybe u should get a life and a friend
It Appears None Of you can think in a buisness man sense!! Most of products made are Un origonal Names Just Spelled a little differently It's The Trick of The Trade And proboby every Company has Used that Trick atleast Once. Jeezz Im Only 12 I I know more about Sales than You.
Actually, the practice of slightly changing the name of an existing product for a new product from a business sense is illegal. If I released a Soda that was a cola with the name Pupsi, I would be sued by the Pepsi-Cola company. At least in the US, the copyright laws smack down on you for something like that, unless it's deemed a parody. Copyright laws cover names that are significantly similiar that could cause market confusion.
well nysh u will have a EXTREAMLY EXTREAMLY hard time proveing that just cuz dale and vale sound the same doesint mean that they ripped em like i said ull have a hard time proven it
Keep in mind that almost all of those subsequent roleplaying games are taking hobbits straight from Tolkein. On a side note, you really have to respect Tolkein's accomplishment. He managed to create an alternate world made plausible by the incredible detail and love with which it was fashioned. I have nothing but respect for a man that defines a genre. (Plagurism is the highest compliment after all)
ROFL....get a life??? If you spent the time to read his post, then why are you telling HIM to get a life, and if you didn't read his post, then why even comment? This isn't meant to flame, rather to say, chill beavis :p
ok i got the Kunark Game thing not the original so i never saw this movie but i did a **** load of reasearch on the gods and i'm quite informed onb them. The thing is this. There is one mega powerful all knowing all everything type entity called the nameless. He isn't a god. he is more than a god. He always was and always will be. He was around befor time began and will be around after everything is gone. He is the one whom created the "gods of norrath" as far as i can tell. He didn't however create them for norrath. I belive that when the gods were created they each bulit them selves's a plane. (air for veeshan, growth for tunare, mishicve for bristlebane, fear for cakiz, and hate for inny.) there are certinly more plans for the other gods. they simply haven't been created/discovered yet. i'm thinking al'kabor will discover them after lucin or maby with it. But anyways each god had it's own plane. Then veeshan was wondering the vastnesses of time and space and discovered norrath. She choose to claim velious for her "brood" (the mini versions of herself she put there. also known as the dragons) Also "the scars of velious" were made by her CLAW. so so she is huge. but then again she's a god so she could have simply made herself big to do then then gone back to normal size. i dunno. But anyways after she left her dragons here some others gods found norrath. First was brell. he carved out a entrance to norrath from his plane of underfoot and place a magic maze of liveing stone to guard it. He invited other gods into a pact at this point to keep watch on veeshan and her kids (dragons) i belive these gods were tunare (who made the elves) cakiz-thule (who made the trolls and lizard men) and rallos zek (who made the giants) and brell (who made the dwarfs). soon brell invited more gods into a new pact. Rallos aagin (this time he made ogres and goblins) and brell made his second race (gnomes) there were probly other gods in the 2nd pact but i can't remember right now. sorry. All of these races prospered and grew. Then the ogre empire (which was incredibly large and powerful because ogres at this time were even stronger than they are now and had extreme magical power) decied to take over norrath. Rallos himself entered the plane of earth (norrath) and so the other gods banded together and locked him in his own plane (power) He could not get out and only powerful gods could get in. Then the gods proceded to serverly punish the mighty races Rallos had created. The ogres were weakened and struck dumb. Many Many giants were kills and the rest were scattered over norrath. The goblins suffered so horrible a fate that no records remain today of their punishment. And now they are but a shadow of their former selves. Somewhere about this time Inny found out about norrath and got pissed cause he wasn't invited into the pacts. So he stole the first High evlen King and Queen and took them to his plane of Hate where he slowly took them apart mentaly and pyshicaly over a time of 300 years. WHen he was done he rebulit them into pervertions of the High elves curropted by hate (these pervertions were the dark elves). After this soluesk ro showed up and used his magic to drive the elves out of their homes and turned it into a desert (the desert of RO, yes the elves used to live on antonica which was at the time called tunaria. the humans changed it to antonica) So the elven druids used powerful magics to try to fight him off but they couldn't beat a god so they left and set up shop in the faydark. Then Mitheral marr and his sister errolis marr showed up on norrath and created the barbairians. Some of them got sick of the violence of their peers so so migrated south and became humans. Humans then journyed all over the world returnign with storys of dwarfs and elves. some even had a limited knowlage of magic. This led to the forming of the mighty combine empire (who created the magical portals wizzie port to) and unforunetly this eventual coslapsed (combine empire) Then amny humans began to fight amounst themselves so again a group of them got sick of it and left. they sailed away from qeynos and landed on odus. They founded the edurites (named after their leader Erud) They studied the 3 main schools of magic. Wizardry, Summoning, And Enchantery. Soon some edurites found out about the forbiden art of necromancery. they were branded heretics and there was a mighty civil war. many people died and this is when the hole was formed and the Vah shir were launched into space. (i belive the edurites and planed to get rid of the heretics but miscalculated and hit the vah shir city instead. Well anyways the heretics were defeatedf and they left and created paineel. where they live now. The halflings i'm not sure about. I belive they may be another of brell's creations or maby karna's. (btw if you've ever read the book "The Hobbit" by JRR Tolkein you'll know that verant totaly ripped off the book and stole the halflings strait from the book. They are exlactly the same. But anyways....... The other gods (prexus tribunal, bexteriox, and the others did not create races (that i know of) but simply showed up and are content to have some of the races already made worship them. Also there is the god Lucin who stayed away from norrath and instead took one of the moons (more wil lbe revealed about this god whom i belive is a her when SOL comes out.) Hope this helped and if i forgot anything or am misimformed don't hesitate to let me know. IM me or e-mail me. screen name is Rky4987 and e-mail is Kingofthejig@hotmail.com All i ask is that you please don't flame this post if i've missed somthing or said somthign that was wrong. Just correct it.
groovy post, i have heard much of that else where, but the what the flamers of this post dont seem to realize is that it was the original purpose of the game to have a good history and background, thats what makes it a good roleplaying game. You flamers are more concerned with uber loot than enjoying the game for the game. Just my 2 cents
"You laugh because I am different, but i laugh because you are the same"
#Anonymous,
Posted:Sep 20 2001 at 7:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) that not an eye. It a butter fly dragon. why does verant lie and sat its a eye. Well its a mean **** so watch out its cute yes but. *eye of veeshan bite him in the **** AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
Why are we all sitting here argueing? There is no REAL answer to any of this speculting. We are spending valuable time arguing indeffinatly about things that dont exist! get a life people (i mean outside of norrath!)