There are two wandering bears in the caves. They both path to the waterfall, but one runs away. That one you can ignore. It doesn't despawn. It will run deep into the caves and back.
The one that you want to watch spawns just inside the giant waterfall from the pond outside in the cave. It wanders inside to the smaller waterfall, pauses, then moves to the three-way facing where the Bloodsaber defiler and fake wall is to the outside. It pauses there again, and then walks back to the giant waterfall and despawns. Total time while it's up is approximately under 3 minutes.
The PH can be a bear cup, Poacher (notice no "a", oldschool method of finding named PHs), or Mammoth itself. Respawn time is approximately 6-7 minutes.
Found Mammoth standing by the watery access to the caves at 11pm, not the later time mentioned elsewhere on ZAM. That said I have seen it (and EQ reports it is an "it", funnily enough) spawn in the early morning as others have said. Perhaps it's variable with a couple different possible spawn times?
I searched the whole cave for this beast for a simple newbie quest, and no luck. Ran into some red conned chick who attacked me though, but I made it out alive. So be wary if your heading southeast in the cave, the SE end is where's she at. Anyways, I decided to try talking to TeAnara (Druid GM) about the bear (Mammoth) and get another flask that starts the quest. Once I did so, I came back to the cave and ran the first level by the entrance and walla! Mr. Mammoth greeted me promptly, to which I handed him the regurgator liquid, and he coughed up my item to finish the quest. So I do believe that this was not coincedence, but how you spawn him. Hail TeAnara and respond for the Mammoth quest, because if you say where is Mammoth, she'll say it's a secret! (Maybe her saying that spawns him too?)
Mammoth's hide is used in the Bonethunder Staff quest. Careful, killing Mammoth will wreck your faction in Surefall and Jaggedpine...bigtime. Even Qeynos faction will most likely drop.
Put some thought in before you kill this bear...you wonder how you're gonna get out of here once you're kos to Surefall and most likely Jaggedpine...hmmm...
FYI for druids and rangers. At lower levels, faction is usually just a minor irritation for most. What happens when you try to start or do your epic is another matter. Killing Holly Windstalker (mentioned in one post) or killing bears with faction such as Mammoth can make it very, very difficult if not impossible to get the epic completed. Others to avoid killing are treants, leatherfoots, and probably more that I have never thought about. Just be aware that you may be in for months of faction work just to make up for a simple kill when you were not thinking about consequences.
True, and a good warning. However, this is the sort of stuff that makes EQ great and sets it apart from more recent mmorpgs as a true Virtual World. Obviously, Mammoth is a beloved inhabitant of the Glades. Thus some developer back in '98 tagged Mammoth for a HUGE faction-hit whenever he was killed. It just makes sense. The bears give a large faction hit, but Mammoth, the named Bear gives a HUGE faction hit.
Had EQ been made now, there would not be a developer left with enough guts to "bother" a player with such a factionhit: after all, he may still have to get his epic! Also, the developer would not have bothered by little details like giving the bears a hit of +100 yet Mammoth a hit of +900. I mean, come on, that's almost like handywork! No, nowadays they would just put some generic, useless faction in for everything that walks and talks in the zone, or rather, just leave the whole faction out at all. Much easier for everyone, right? /SIGH
A fair warning indeed, given by a fellow player. And there you hit right in the middle of another typical EQ feature: in EQ you *need* a community, because not everything is easy and not everything is obvious. EQ can play tricks with you, like the Mammoth factionhit, but a game like EQ also breeds the sort of atmosphere where another player comes to the rescue and warns you about the consequences of killing Mammoth.
FYI for druids and rangers. At lower levels, faction is usually just a minor irritation for most. What happens when you try to start or do your epic is another matter. Killing Holly Windstalker (mentioned in one post) or killing bears with faction such as Mammoth can make it very, very difficult if not impossible to get the epic completed. Others to avoid killing are treants, leatherfoots, and probably more that I have never thought about. Just be aware that you may be in for months of faction work just to make up for a simple kill when you were not thinking about consequences.
Here are the rulers of every town that have rulers (this does not include fighting areas such as BlackBurrow, and does not include Yekisha+) King Kazon Stormhammer – 50 war - Kaladim Sir Lucan D’Lere – 48 war – Freeport Qeynos – Antonius Bale (missing) Kane Bayle/ Commander Kane – War 61 – Qeynos Catacombs/ North Mayor Gubbin – 50 war – Rivervale Mammoth – 20 to 25 war – Surefall Glade Overlord Virate Manaar – 50 SK – Paineel King Ak’Anon – 60 War – Ak’Anon Dain Frostreaver IV – 70 War – Icewell Keep King Tormax – 70 War – Kael Drakkel Lord Yelinak – 70 Hybrid – Skyshrine Lcea Katta – 60 Hybrid – Katta Castellum Lord Inquisitor Seru – 66 War – Sanctus Seru King Raja Kerrath – 65 War – Shar Vahl
I killed this sucker right now in self defense when coming out from behind the waterfall. He agroed me, I gave him a few good stabs of my dagger and took a NASTY faction hit. I stepped outta the water, conned the closest ranger, and he was threateningly. I went from kindly to threateningly with this kill.
one day i was walking along and i entrerd the waterfall and he was standing right there i was a Lv 9 warrior and he came after me i died realy quick talk about bad luck
I wasted this guy a few minutes ago. I took big faction hits all of the things that the little bears give faction hits for, except about 100 times greater. I conned barely (I had just killed Holly Windstalker) apprehensive to the rangers in surefall glade before I killed him, and glowering dubious afterwards. I looted Bayle's list II(or something like that, not sure of the exact name), a chunk of bear meat, and 'Mammoth's hide'. I am curious about the hide, as to whether it can be used in tailoring, or a quest, or what? If you are going to kill him, make sure that you have enough good faction with the ranger guild in surefall or it might be a little hard to get out...
Shadowsfall High Elf Paladin on the Drinal Server level 28 at the time of this posting
needing the third part of the bayle list, I camped mammoth in the bear cave, He is a rare spawn, but spawns next to the waterfall leading into the bear cave, not hte waterfall a little ways in, dropped him easily, but watch out bren is always near, there may be a connection between the two.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Aug 29 2001 at 5:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What do you know Sanzar??? just kidding buddy. I killed Mammoth, he was green to me at 29 and I didn't get anything whatsoever. Waste of time. But feel free to kill the chump,. always fun i guess.
What do you know Sanzar??? just kidding buddy. I killed Mammoth, he was green to me at 29 and I didn't get anything whatsoever. Waste of time. But feel free to kill the chump,. always fun i guess.
Gilthas Larethian Ranger the 29th Drinal (Kingdom of Light)
He may be a pain to some. But I had a Ranger for a long time and had a friend with a Druid. We always fished under the waterfall. Mammoth would occasionaly walk by and we would pet him. He was always kind to us. But if you're out to poach, beware. He has a fierce bite.