King Tormax  

does tormax have an aoe? i heard from a guildie that he did

Edited, Mon Oct 18 09:50:58 2004

i was with a monk and cleric sitting near bank to pull stuff arround. ( trying to get some amor ) after 1 hour of pulling i saw tons of people running across bank area to east corner. hmmm i asked one of those people why the running like hell and he told me that they where splitting the guards from king tromax. 5 mins later first guard come and 2 mins later next guard. he send me tell that i should hit each guard to obtain a nice faction hit if iam on dorf and ss faction. hmmm nice so i did. after the guards was taken we moved to wl zone. the raidforce of the guild was arround 40 people. all 58+ and most 60. 10 mins later i saw king tromax saying something and the show starts. wooow this guild took him down without loosing any player. when he was near dead i jumped in and hit king tromax to get another faction hit. as i know this is so far bester faction hit u can get. hope this helps abit if u trying to get him down or lf a nice faction hit.

If Dain and Tormax and Yelinak went at it I wonder who the **** would win!? My guess is Dain.

how many hps does he have, what spells work or do not work on him (ie: fire, cold, magic, disease, posion), how fast does he regen, does he cast anything, does he gate?

so,about how much harder is tormax then vindi?

Any clue on how hard Tormax hits and his approx hp? Somebody said his hp was double Vindi's

Well, a lot of people have requested information on this bad boy. Dunno how much I can help, but I'll try.

First, to the poster regarding how many to take the throne room, who knows? You don't want to do that unless your entire guild is giant faction and the rest won't agro you (not sure if they do or don't--my guild is d0rf faction, so I can't help here). My understanding is that those of giant faction often use ally pullers (one or a string of them) to pull tormax to the EW zone and take him there. Do not damage him, or he will summon. Pull with some kind of debuff item or your puller won't make it back to you.

If you are dwarf faction, the best place to take him is probably just through the tunnel before the icebridge. There is a sort of alcove there (don't actually fight on the bridge of course). I believe most of the giants there are subject to dictate if a poorly timed add spawns. If you get respawn in the throne room, those can't be charmed and you are going to be messily dead.

Tormax's pets can be pulled separetly, but Tormax can't be pulled without his pets. Thus, pull the pets first and kill them. Then you can get Tormax solo. Tormax and pets at the same time is a bad idea. You will have to have your FD pullers work this spawn a bit. It's a hard split, but it can be done.

Pets are on a much longer respawn than the rest of the giants. Once they are down, expect to wait for the mobs to respawn. Clear them fast. You should have about 15 minutes to kill Tormax if you do it right. Not sure what the respawn time on the pets is like. Few hours I think.

As to classes, you need a balance as usual. High level enchanters are good for adds, as well as KEI or c2, etc. Get a lot of clerics. Depending on levels involved, you may need a whole lot of them. The more 60s you have the less clerics you need. Damage output determines the number of clerics you need. At the minimum, I'd go with a 5 cleric healing circle casting CH on the main tank every 2 seconds. If you don't have the damage per second high enough to take him out fast, you may need to add clerics to the healing circle to spread mana costs out for the length of the fight. Have them trained to switch tanks if the defensive skill on the first tank drops. Teach your tanks to turn off attack until the new main tank (MT) gets agro back. If you aren't familiar with agro management, attack distance, and pushing, you're already dead to Tormax. Don't bother. :)

Level is important, of course, so number of tanks, etc. are really hard to judge--especially given the disparity in equipment. I would expect 40 level 60s in NToV gear and primal weapons could take Tormax. With a majority of 60s and all 55+ with non ToV gear, I'd expect you'd need at least 60 people. I'd go with 4-5 warriors (as many 60's as possible). As many rogues as you can get, especially 60s. 7-8 clerics with 5 in circle and the remaining ones watching for OOM messages or LD to step into circle. As many 60 wizzies with lure line spells (fire, I think) or giant bane spells as you can find. Druids and 60 shaman are good for filling out groups for healing. Druids blast well too, of course. All the classes are useful, frankly. Melee damage, LoH skill, blasting (mages, etc.). It's all good as long as you get your DPS (damage per second) up.

Tormax's agro range is huge. Tell your puller to beware. If you get an adjuctant or some other healer popping, best hope your enchanters are fast. A CH'd Tormax would be a very bad thing! :)

Tormax is not slowable. Avoid high taunt weapons except for the main tank. Even-out push to keep him in the middle of that little alcove. If he goes up on a wall where the rogues can't backstab, you are probably going to lose. Don't have your casters blast until 50% hp, or you will probably mess up agro. Don't use pets, they push too much.

If your pullers haven't done this before, it will probably take them a couple of raids to learn the pet split. DON'T *****. They will be eating a lot of deaths learning it for you. Suck it up and waste your time. They're working harder than you are. I personally think our pullers are vastly underappreciated.

Hmmmm. That's about all I can think of at the moment.

Hope this helps.

So, since Giants can not be mezed, has anyone ever tryed to have a 60 chanter charm the guards? would it stick - My guild has used charm on these guys in the arena to deal with adds, just woundering if it would work on the kings guards?