Scars of Velious
I'm not going to make definitive statements about the other things, but:
Dex DOES affect how fast you advance weapon skills, DRASTICALLY.
I worked my sadly-neglected 1HB skill up from 0 to 200 lately, as a level 45 warrior, and there ain't no doubt: low dex = forever. Werewolf form, +100 dex = zippity do dah!
I see the same thing on my level 11 Beastlord twink. He's been using 1-handers and recently inherited a nice hand-me-down 2HB staff. He has low dex though (70), and it's proving damn near impossible to get any 2HB skill-ups. (Already blew all my skill points helping other melee skills along.) I know you can get an advance without a hit, but still, advances seem to be (loosely) related to hits, somehow. And he just. never. hits. anything blue. It's tank and keep the pet alive, till the pet manages to kill the mob. REEEALLY sux. Maybe 2HB skill will move faster once it gets out of the single digits. I'm at 3, after 2 or 3 hours. Soon I'll break down and beg a shaman or chanter friend to swing by Shar Vahl...or, I'll toss the twink and start over. Vah Shir Beastlords appear to suck, compared to __________ (fill in the blank with any other race of your choice that can be a BL.)
Edited, Thu Jan 24 06:51:13 2002
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#REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 24 2001 at 1:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) everyone is entitled to an opinion of ac/str vs dex/agi. sadly most are mistaken. agi/dex means NOTHING. NOTHING. NOTHING in terms of defensive or offrensive abilities. if you don tbelieve me, go log it.
agi=more dodging and other skill uses as well as a slight AC advantage (aka a godlike advantage) and dex affects procs and rate of learning offensive skills, as well as rate of critting i believe
12 posts
Actually, IMO, agility is a nice bonus, but AC is the key. In the long run agility does little for you after around 100 point (until you get over 200). Better to go for HUGE ac and str.. then Hp's and stamina.. Let the other stuff take care of itself
Worce Spiritrunner
52nd Champion of Halas
Brell Serilis
Skyre Draneth US Recruitment Officer
Worce Spiritrunner
52nd Champion of Halas
Brell Serilis
Skyre Draneth US Recruitment Officer
/agree, qualified.
Maybe against low blues, like if you're soloing or teamed, AGI might help you get hit substantially less. AGI may also be fairly significant at lower levels.
But I fully agree, for mid-to-high level (say 35+), in a group fighting stuff closer to your level, it's just plain gonna hit you, and AGI seems much less important than AC which mitigates the inevitable damage.
Of course this is a warrior speaking, in response to a warrior's post... I dunno, maybe it's different for a monk. Maybe they can actually get hit less even at high levels, with high AGI. Any monks wanna chime in?
Sure, I'll chime in.
Warriors want AC & str, then hp & sta. Warriors naturally have higher HP and sta than monks do, they also have higher AC, just by the equipment they are able to get. For monks.. it's AC, str, hp, dex/agi (whichever way you go, then the other is next). Agi helps out dodge and all those good skills.
Tested it out, I dodged/blocked/riposted almost twice as much with shaman buffs (normal Agi is 112, 160-something with lvl 60 shaman Agi buff) than I did normally. At level 43, I feel I suffer with only 1244hp because I can barely solo blues, but that's only because my equipment only gives me 877AC. I should be over 900 by now, but my lack of cash and wants for a better weapon leave me high and dry. lol. ( I will post my magelo profile at the bottom so you can see my stuff)
I hit more with dex buffs (normally 119), hit harder with str buffs (111).. And I KNOW I could use more Sta, but I think having +17 sta with crappy equipment is pretty awesome.
Sorry for ranting, just a summary for ppl who don't wanna read all my gobbily-****:
Order for monks over 35-
AC - HP - Stats (Str/Agi/Dex) ...
The stats can be switched around if you want, it's just the AC and HP that are important.
Jarholi Scalefist
44 Iksar Monk
Tunare
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=139921
(the other ones are just things I was messin around with.. a wish-list if you will)
Warriors want AC & str, then hp & sta. Warriors naturally have higher HP and sta than monks do, they also have higher AC, just by the equipment they are able to get. For monks.. it's AC, str, hp, dex/agi (whichever way you go, then the other is next). Agi helps out dodge and all those good skills.
Tested it out, I dodged/blocked/riposted almost twice as much with shaman buffs (normal Agi is 112, 160-something with lvl 60 shaman Agi buff) than I did normally. At level 43, I feel I suffer with only 1244hp because I can barely solo blues, but that's only because my equipment only gives me 877AC. I should be over 900 by now, but my lack of cash and wants for a better weapon leave me high and dry. lol. ( I will post my magelo profile at the bottom so you can see my stuff)
I hit more with dex buffs (normally 119), hit harder with str buffs (111).. And I KNOW I could use more Sta, but I think having +17 sta with crappy equipment is pretty awesome.
Sorry for ranting, just a summary for ppl who don't wanna read all my gobbily-****:
Order for monks over 35-
AC - HP - Stats (Str/Agi/Dex) ...
The stats can be switched around if you want, it's just the AC and HP that are important.
Jarholi Scalefist
44 Iksar Monk
Tunare
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=139921
(the other ones are just things I was messin around with.. a wish-list if you will)
*cough* okay imo your all wrong ... the most important stat in the game to any class who's not a pure caster (and even then it's incredibly important) is hp/sta ... you can hit your ac softcaps easily with mediocre gear. hp / sta is what keeps you alive
21 posts
I have found, being a good friend with an enchanter, that dex helps with porcs a lot more then most of you believe. If your weapon porcs anything, get an enchanter to cast boon of the soemthingeranother (illusion werewolf). It's a +100 dex buff, and i have noticed a marginal difference as to the amount of porcs that i get in a single fight. With a pair of Wu's i would proc at least once a fight, every fight, during my whole time hunting in CoM. I think the max that i had against a "easy" mob in the zone was 5 or 6.
That's just what i've observed
That's just what i've observed
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 07 2001 at 8:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "Hey wow man...can i go play around in the GREEN House funland? Ya man just dont knock over the bong water this time. Theres no stems and no seeeeeds.. drive around if you PLEAAAASSE. You deserve a spliff today..take one toke and your blown away at MCdoobies! at Mcdoobies!!!!!"
Anonymous
This OLD discusion has it's points of truth on both sides of it, but I'll only make a couple of general points and throw out a few specific points.
The main thing that people do not understand is that much as there is a Wis/Int cap, there are caps for other stats also, some seem to have break points in them, only one that I have noticed has no noticable cap on it is str...and the way it affects your attack factor.
Concerning Procs, there seems to be many ideas out there about them, heres what I have found that works; first everyone knows about level caps, but there also seems to be diffrent dexs needed to proc weapons reliably, I have run into several weapons that I could make proc like mad, even with little skill in the type, but that a master with less dex could not get to proc at all.
As a side note I as have found that your general attack rating, seems to help with some weapons also.
On the AC vs Agi, I'm dead set on AC. Agi seems to have a rather low cap on it's help with misses and such but the obvious effects are visable as far as ye want to take them, but once ye get over about 101ish you'll notice that the more ye stack on to Agi, yer not getting the same overall bennies as before.
Thats it for now...Flame on. *smirk*
Daer MacBeagn 51 Champion, on Bristlebane
The main thing that people do not understand is that much as there is a Wis/Int cap, there are caps for other stats also, some seem to have break points in them, only one that I have noticed has no noticable cap on it is str...and the way it affects your attack factor.
Concerning Procs, there seems to be many ideas out there about them, heres what I have found that works; first everyone knows about level caps, but there also seems to be diffrent dexs needed to proc weapons reliably, I have run into several weapons that I could make proc like mad, even with little skill in the type, but that a master with less dex could not get to proc at all.
As a side note I as have found that your general attack rating, seems to help with some weapons also.
On the AC vs Agi, I'm dead set on AC. Agi seems to have a rather low cap on it's help with misses and such but the obvious effects are visable as far as ye want to take them, but once ye get over about 101ish you'll notice that the more ye stack on to Agi, yer not getting the same overall bennies as before.
Thats it for now...Flame on. *smirk*
Daer MacBeagn 51 Champion, on Bristlebane
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 05 2001 at 9:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SHROOOOOOOMSS..... TOKE TOKE TOKE TOkE TOKE!!!! its like my fav show SMOKEMON.. featuring Bongizard and Tokachu.
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 27 2001 at 10:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Br0 - w3 sh0u7d st4rt a T0k34th0n h3r3 pr33ty qu1c|2 - Sh1tL1c|2
Anonymous
holy chit... 18ac bracer = pimp... i ain't got that on my bp
Anonymous
Err sorry guys had to throw that in =P
*let the flames die im not serious*
*let the flames die im not serious*
Anonymous
hehe yeah. every light piece of decent tank armor that's not monk only has fifty posts by angry monks ranting about how it should always go to the monk and verant is ******** monks by lettignn other people wear it blah blah blah whine whine whine
Anonymous
effect:wild trip. its like fireworks but it makes you kobve like your drunk and only you can see it
11 posts
The person who said AC was useless for a monk compared to AGI has obviously no clue what he/she is talking about.
It is an old MYTH that agi would help your skills such as block, dodge and riposte or even the plain misses happen more.
Every now and then, I hear a stats discussion going (usually EC or NRO/Oasis). always about the saem topics: what do dex, agi and sometimes charisma actually do. There are always some wannabe smart newbies who claim things such as the agi/defensive skill thing or who claim dex gives you more attacks or more chance to let the attack land then you miss.
I have 2 things for you:
Make your own tests with uppped and not upped stats. see the difference for yourself.
I've found that each 3 agi I have means one more AC (on a lvl 51 monk). a 109 Agi more didn't change a single thing in hits (on a base of 20 duels each) It just meant i lost some ac and had less hp due to hp items i had to remove to get the agi more.
Absor also stated it helps you LEARN your defensive skills faster. Seems logical to me, but There's no way I could test that, so I take the man's word for it. Not that I'll be seeking agi items for that ability.
I HAVE noticed that I could fight very low blues for a whole level and not see my defensive skills go up, while high blues or higher (think Fire Giants, sebilis mobs, etc etc) almost guarantee me an up in a skill on a very short time base.
DEX is supposed to make you proc more often, which would be only interesting thing as a monk. I've done tests, and it seems that an upping of 102 dex gave me 4% more procs ( woa!)
Same thing here as with agi, Absor stated it helps you learn your offensive skills faster, together with STR. seems logical... not that I could test it, or am going to wear dex gear when I have 5 more points in h2h to get now I levelled.
Please do me a facor: If you have no idea what you are talking about, pls mention it, or state that it's what you think. Do not come with things like: "for those of you that dont play high level monks, ac isnt as cool as agility, which increases the chance of all of your special abilities going off."
/shrug
It is an old MYTH that agi would help your skills such as block, dodge and riposte or even the plain misses happen more.
Every now and then, I hear a stats discussion going (usually EC or NRO/Oasis). always about the saem topics: what do dex, agi and sometimes charisma actually do. There are always some wannabe smart newbies who claim things such as the agi/defensive skill thing or who claim dex gives you more attacks or more chance to let the attack land then you miss.
I have 2 things for you:
Make your own tests with uppped and not upped stats. see the difference for yourself.
I've found that each 3 agi I have means one more AC (on a lvl 51 monk). a 109 Agi more didn't change a single thing in hits (on a base of 20 duels each) It just meant i lost some ac and had less hp due to hp items i had to remove to get the agi more.
Absor also stated it helps you LEARN your defensive skills faster. Seems logical to me, but There's no way I could test that, so I take the man's word for it. Not that I'll be seeking agi items for that ability.
I HAVE noticed that I could fight very low blues for a whole level and not see my defensive skills go up, while high blues or higher (think Fire Giants, sebilis mobs, etc etc) almost guarantee me an up in a skill on a very short time base.
DEX is supposed to make you proc more often, which would be only interesting thing as a monk. I've done tests, and it seems that an upping of 102 dex gave me 4% more procs ( woa!)
Same thing here as with agi, Absor stated it helps you learn your offensive skills faster, together with STR. seems logical... not that I could test it, or am going to wear dex gear when I have 5 more points in h2h to get now I levelled.
Please do me a facor: If you have no idea what you are talking about, pls mention it, or state that it's what you think. Do not come with things like: "for those of you that dont play high level monks, ac isnt as cool as agility, which increases the chance of all of your special abilities going off."
/shrug
Anonymous
Well I have a 56 monk on Bertoxxulous. I don't feel like getting into a long conversation where I explain my test or what I've noticed. Basicly agi is defensive skills it helps them go up and has a small effect of how often they go off. Same with dex but offensive skills and procs. Str is less of when offensive skills going up but how effective they are like damage wise and most of that is not the str its self but its the atk that str gives. Atk is the major factor in landing hits. As for AC no way I would wear some crap *** agi bracer like serp or something instead of the massive 18ac bracer. I suggest you get your agi to 120 and then leave it alone. You will get over that as an added bonus with other items but dont go after it.
Anonymous
Obviously you don't feel like having a conversation where you explain your test because you haven't done one, and are basing what you say entirely on unquantifiable guessing.
Anonymous
for those of you that dont play high level monks, ac isnt as cool as agility, which increases the chance of all of your special abilities going off. the ac is still sweet though, and planer gear with 0 weight! finally a reason to go to PoM
and its pretty obvious u dont play or have ever played a high level monk either, all agil does is raise your AC by 1 for every 4 agil points or somthin like that, It has nothing to do with how well your defencive skills go off...
Ack, agi doesn't help your defensive specials go off bud. Verant has stated that bluntly several times, what Agi does is help to RAISE the defensive skills. Dex helps to raise offensive skills, but doesn't improve hit ratio.
Though everyone has their opinion, I'm gonna side with Verant on this issue as I have since they stated it.
Though everyone has their opinion, I'm gonna side with Verant on this issue as I have since they stated it.
Anonymous
Seriously please list the 4 cards to make this combo would help out a lot thanks.
Anonymous
Black Throne, Blue Throne, Blue Crown, Blue Knight
Click the link to the quest above, it lists the known combos and rewards.
Click the link to the quest above, it lists the known combos and rewards.
Anonymous
This must be the best bracer iv seen for a Monk.
The fact that it weights 0 is sooooooo very kewl for a AC18 bracer, and the stats are really sweet too.
My curent best bracer is My Shackle of steel which is
AC9, +5str, +5sta +5MR
And that is a good bracer.... so compared then the PoM bracer really rox.
Now its just talking my guild into going there =)
Crunzh Bonebane
lvl 55 Master of the Cazic Thule server.
The fact that it weights 0 is sooooooo very kewl for a AC18 bracer, and the stats are really sweet too.
My curent best bracer is My Shackle of steel which is
AC9, +5str, +5sta +5MR
And that is a good bracer.... so compared then the PoM bracer really rox.
Now its just talking my guild into going there =)
Crunzh Bonebane
lvl 55 Master of the Cazic Thule server.
Do I sense any Monks not keeping these for a long time? Knowing some of the Ikky Monks I know... and humans, don't get me wrong..... they gonna be puffing these things before long.... I mean.... they're already stealing the Shammy Spell components when the guys run out of cash.....
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 02 2001 at 11:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Umm...dude, WTF are you talking about??
#REDACTED,
Posted: May 03 2001 at 1:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yeah, wtf IS he talking about? lol
5 posts
Shrooms...never mind if you don't get it.
Anonymous
With AC like that, this is probably the best monk bracer in the game. No surprise it's from PoM.
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