Okay I'm wearing a full set of Crusty Armor(Dex hit) and whatever other slots I have empty, I put validues custodus into them(agi hit), so having two of these rings would really be nice for me, and would even increase my agi/dex over it's base amount.
Rauke Da'kasbah
Northern Warrior o' tha 19th winter
Graduated last in his class at Halas Vo Tech
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Hi just your averave shaman with a few thoughts about all this arguing
I see valid points for why each ring as useful. I carry different equipment for different situations. The most important thing to consider is that everyone has different equipment and is a different level. This is all about Min/Maxing your stats, to your level, and how you play the game. There are many factors that can make one item more appealing then another.
At higher levels you wont need dex or str with your rings anyways. A 49+ shaman can buff you 134 str and 100 dex,(note this could change, b/c of a HoS buffing bug, lets hope it doesn't) This should max out your str and dex ability no problem. Agi is harder to max out even with buffs so that may be your logic to go with this ring.
If you dont have a shaman to buff you, you might switch these with the fire emerald rings with 6 str and dex. My rogue would where these to max out BS ability. Warrior might to get better strength bonus and procs.
If you are a mid level player (20-40) you might not have your abilities maxed or may only have one maxed (str in my opinion is easiest ability to max). If your strenght is maxed then this might be a better ring for you.
If you are the main tank or the backup that keeps adds off the casters, HP AC rings will most likely be your ring of choice. If you are not a Main tank you really dont need AC or HP, because theoretically you wont be getting hit.
Agility is rumored to effect your ability to dodge or evade getting hit. AC is supposed to reduce the amount of damage you will recieve from each blow. If this is true then if you get quick agro (ie from proc or BS) you want to dodge the blow and not take any damage. As you will only have agro for a brief moment. But main tank will be taking a continual beating ie they want ac to weaken the hits and more hp to take more hits.
I like this ring and want at least one to have in my ******* of equipment for my ranger, rogue, shaman, and warrior. Just remember what people choose to equip is to mim/max thier individual character There is no one right answer. I hope this will help some people out.
You may now flame me for any spelling or info errors, or because you hate kats and frogs...
Edited, Mon Apr 15 12:33:12 2002
I see valid points for why each ring as useful. I carry different equipment for different situations. The most important thing to consider is that everyone has different equipment and is a different level. This is all about Min/Maxing your stats, to your level, and how you play the game. There are many factors that can make one item more appealing then another.
At higher levels you wont need dex or str with your rings anyways. A 49+ shaman can buff you 134 str and 100 dex,(note this could change, b/c of a HoS buffing bug, lets hope it doesn't) This should max out your str and dex ability no problem. Agi is harder to max out even with buffs so that may be your logic to go with this ring.
If you dont have a shaman to buff you, you might switch these with the fire emerald rings with 6 str and dex. My rogue would where these to max out BS ability. Warrior might to get better strength bonus and procs.
If you are a mid level player (20-40) you might not have your abilities maxed or may only have one maxed (str in my opinion is easiest ability to max). If your strenght is maxed then this might be a better ring for you.
If you are the main tank or the backup that keeps adds off the casters, HP AC rings will most likely be your ring of choice. If you are not a Main tank you really dont need AC or HP, because theoretically you wont be getting hit.
Agility is rumored to effect your ability to dodge or evade getting hit. AC is supposed to reduce the amount of damage you will recieve from each blow. If this is true then if you get quick agro (ie from proc or BS) you want to dodge the blow and not take any damage. As you will only have agro for a brief moment. But main tank will be taking a continual beating ie they want ac to weaken the hits and more hp to take more hits.
I like this ring and want at least one to have in my ******* of equipment for my ranger, rogue, shaman, and warrior. Just remember what people choose to equip is to mim/max thier individual character There is no one right answer. I hope this will help some people out.
You may now flame me for any spelling or info errors, or because you hate kats and frogs...
Edited, Mon Apr 15 12:33:12 2002
39 posts
I decided to buy one of these one day after a shammy gave me a dex buff of only 10. until that buff faded my ghoulbane and nife spell doubled in amount of times proced. maybe im just lucky
Kebmo Stormbeard
35 season Paladin of xev
Kebmo Stormbeard
35 season Paladin of xev
1 post
Can anybody tell me how Dex effects critical hits, if it does how much?
13 posts
i figured out the Agi to ac conversion.
1 AGI(on item) = 0.5 AC(on persona stats)
1 AC(on item) = 1.5 AC(on persona stats)
having a pair of these rings is the same AC as having about 4AC on an item plus getting hit much less plus hitting more plus more procs. i have a pair of velium black pearl rings and a golden black pearl choker and it feels great to have 21dex and 21agi in 3 items.(im a rogue btw)
so for all of you idiots who say these rings suck..
shut the hell up.
1 AGI(on item) = 0.5 AC(on persona stats)
1 AC(on item) = 1.5 AC(on persona stats)
having a pair of these rings is the same AC as having about 4AC on an item plus getting hit much less plus hitting more plus more procs. i have a pair of velium black pearl rings and a golden black pearl choker and it feels great to have 21dex and 21agi in 3 items.(im a rogue btw)
so for all of you idiots who say these rings suck..
shut the hell up.
19 posts
Umm try 3 Agi = 1 AC and 1 AC on items = depends on class. Nice try though pal.
8 posts
I can say that about half the monks who come to me swear by their fire opal rings, and the other half swear by these, for pretty much the above arguments, and neither side has ever proven they're right to me or anyone else.
I generally sell these rings at 600pp each (and spare me the WHOA TOO MUCH rubbish - they sell just fine at that price) and I've had trouble keeping black pearls in stock ever since I started making these.
If I may point out- a long time ago Verant explained that AC showed two things- how hard you'll get hit and how much you'll get hit, combined into one number. I'm imagine the AC/HP rings mitigate how HARD you get hit, because it's improving your sturdiness. I'd imagine the agi/dex rings improve how OFTEN you get hit, because it's making you faster.
And I know which kind I have on my monk. ;)
Friedrich Psitalon
Guildmaster PTA
I generally sell these rings at 600pp each (and spare me the WHOA TOO MUCH rubbish - they sell just fine at that price) and I've had trouble keeping black pearls in stock ever since I started making these.
If I may point out- a long time ago Verant explained that AC showed two things- how hard you'll get hit and how much you'll get hit, combined into one number. I'm imagine the AC/HP rings mitigate how HARD you get hit, because it's improving your sturdiness. I'd imagine the agi/dex rings improve how OFTEN you get hit, because it's making you faster.
And I know which kind I have on my monk. ;)
Friedrich Psitalon
Guildmaster PTA
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 17 2001 at 1:34 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) could anyone tell me what the price range for these would be? thanks
Anonymous
xabtiz
thx for being smarter then monkey ring!!! finaly someone thats smarter then a sack of hammers agi is the best why to raise ac when your lvls raise it gose up and unless your lvl 50+on araid you won't get a ac ring that can beat a good agi ring any day
thx for being smarter then monkey ring!!! finaly someone thats smarter then a sack of hammers agi is the best why to raise ac when your lvls raise it gose up and unless your lvl 50+on araid you won't get a ac ring that can beat a good agi ring any day
2 posts
Ok, everyone that says this ring sucks, fine. You win. It does suck. ok? feel better now? <<((to those who know better, shhhh, dont tell, let them believe this ring sucks, keeps the price down, so no more posts about this ring being a good thing, ok? let it suck, hehehe.))>>
47 posts
Count the haste items. immagine him at level 60. here inny inny inny
47 posts
Even though i know i cant place these items on my monk (yet) i have a longterm plan to do such. Please visit the following link from this site.
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http://eqdb.allakhazam.com/player.html?player=9349
copy paste top bar, and please dont edit im only thinking about this in the longrun atm.
34 posts
For those who don't know... AC IS EVERYTHING. Not much else matters. That is why these suck.
Anonymous
Agil gives you AC and at the same time helps you avoid hits
Anonymous
(First Poster! nyah!)
This is a monkey ring all the way -=)
Imagine being twinked with 2 of these at level 1...
/drool
And people think it's not worth it being an Enchanter jeweler...in the long run..if you can get up to making Velium Jewelry (ie, can take the time to hop down your ceiling high pile of Enchanted Silver Rings and practice, practice, practice...), you'd be a jeweling god!!
This is a monkey ring all the way -=)
Imagine being twinked with 2 of these at level 1...
/drool
And people think it's not worth it being an Enchanter jeweler...in the long run..if you can get up to making Velium Jewelry (ie, can take the time to hop down your ceiling high pile of Enchanted Silver Rings and practice, practice, practice...), you'd be a jeweling god!!
Come on...if anybody has any kind of actual PROOF of the difference in damage taken between this and a 6AC ring, please post it (not just "my high level friend said such-and-such", either...real proof)- if not, then let's keep it to a friendly debate and not call anybody an idiot. Monks and rogues are mostly offense-oriented anyway, aren't they? And dexterity is an offense stat, especially if you have a proc weapon. This ring is very good for many purposes, and a 6/65 is very good for many purposes. Let each person decide what they want to wear...if you think somebody's going to get your whole party killed by wearing one of these instead of a Fire Opal (I doubt it), then just don't group with them. Quite simple, actually. Keep the flames in the forge, folks.
Teriuk / Terriuk / Tookus
Warrior / Warrior / Druid
Morell-Thule
Teriuk / Terriuk / Tookus
Warrior / Warrior / Druid
Morell-Thule
Warlord Teriuk Blackarrow
Morell-Thule (Erollisi Marr)
Morell-Thule (Erollisi Marr)
#Anonymous,
Posted: Mar 14 2001 at 6:59 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Any monk who wears these is an idiot. They would wear velium fire opal rings (6 ac/65hp). *sigh* will ppl ever learn that stats mean nothing to a tank?.. AC/HP/RESISTS.. only thing saving your life.
Anonymous
Ok I know Im not high enough in level to get these items but I think something is wrong here
He said 6ac and 65hp *2 is better than stats
but at this level isnt 130 hp about one swing from a critter in Vel??
Just wondering i would rather not get hit with higher agil than be able to take 1 more hit only.
Thanks
please keep flames to a min..
He said 6ac and 65hp *2 is better than stats
but at this level isnt 130 hp about one swing from a critter in Vel??
Just wondering i would rather not get hit with higher agil than be able to take 1 more hit only.
Thanks
please keep flames to a min..
#Anonymous,
Posted: Mar 14 2001 at 2:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) if your not the main tank why wouldnt you wear these the +14dex would be a very nice added feature if your not the main tank.id have to say your an idiot for being so onesided
Anonymous
and what exactly would that 14 dex do? it wouldnt even mean one more proc in 4 fights, ***** that, because you will always manage to catch a little agro BECAUSE of a strong proc, so you dont want it to proc MORE and have low ac/hp at the same time.
Anonymous
rofl dont u know? Dex makes u hit more often... so if u not the main tank, lets think about this, then u will b hittin a ton more... as long as the main tank does his/her job of keepin the agro u will hit a ton more with an extra 14 dex :)
peace brothers,
Honesto-Tribunal-sk
peace brothers,
Honesto-Tribunal-sk
16 posts
Ok people, if you didnt know.....agi brings up your ac, and at higher lvls it would mean a hole lot more than the 15 or what ever ac that the other rings had! :P
For bards and rogues, the added dexterity is QUITE desirable. It has been my experience that with a dex of about 105, I will still miss notes about 1 in every 5 attempts. And no the reason is not my skill in the instrument; all my instrumental skills are maxed.
Where a rogue is concerned, a higher dex greatly contributes to their ability to apply poisons and other rogueish stuff =)
Thunderous Silenc
Where a rogue is concerned, a higher dex greatly contributes to their ability to apply poisons and other rogueish stuff =)
Thunderous Silenc
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