Scalp of the Ghoul Lord
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DropsThis item is found on creatures. Lower Guk
Increases your faction with Frogloks of Guk by 250, for classes / races / deities who can use it. Deities are Bertoxxulous, Cazic-Thule, Innoruuk, Rallos Zek and Veeshan. |
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As of December 2020, Scalp of the Ghoul Lord is confirmed to still drop. It appears to be an ultra rare drop as my character went all the way to +2000 faction only faction farming in Lower Guk at +1 per kill. All undead named were killed along the way including the Ghoul Lord. After hitting +2000 faction it took an additional ~8 hours singularly camping the Ghoul Lord for this to finally drop.
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Killed Lord while factioning. Read the scalp. Thought I was out of luck since I'm agnostic. Tried it on anyway for the heck of it. Took me from amiably to kindly. No idea why. Might be bugged or something, but worked.
Am able to wear this as a Human Warrior of Rodcet Nife, the item gives no stats when worn, has the yellowish look when worn on the inventory, but the faction mod works just fine. Took me from Kindly to Warmly.
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just got it today on 03/06/2010,
and i cannot use it,
lvl 85 palladin - human - deity: mithaniel marr.
i have been killing frogs in old seb and now in lower guk.
but easy drop.
and i cannot use it,
lvl 85 palladin - human - deity: mithaniel marr.
i have been killing frogs in old seb and now in lower guk.
but easy drop.
silvrenniel wrote:
just got it today on 03/06/2010,
and i cannot use it,
lvl 85 palladin - human - deity: mithaniel marr.
i have been killing frogs in old seb and now in lower guk.
but easy drop.
and i cannot use it,
lvl 85 palladin - human - deity: mithaniel marr.
i have been killing frogs in old seb and now in lower guk.
but easy drop.
Yes, see above where it says, "Deity: Bertoxxulous Cazic-Thule Innoruuk Rallos Zek Veeshan."
was clearing lower guk on my friend's beastlord and got lucky, lord was up and dropped this. actually took her from a high dubious to an amiable. that is quite a faction boost.
regarding below post- the beastlord is agnostic vah shir, and scalp can be worn and the modifier works. apparently the race/diety restrictions are not in effect. unsure about class
Edited, Apr 29th 2010 9:36pm by starwhisp
Edited, Apr 29th 2010 9:37pm by starwhisp
regarding below post- the beastlord is agnostic vah shir, and scalp can be worn and the modifier works. apparently the race/diety restrictions are not in effect. unsure about class
Edited, Apr 29th 2010 9:36pm by starwhisp
Edited, Apr 29th 2010 9:37pm by starwhisp
Scholar
20 posts
As a 67 rogue of the Bristlebane deity, I am Indifferent to the frogloks when I am not wearing the scalp, but when I put it on my faction changes to amiable. Anyone else have this happen to them with a deity that is not listed?
This may very well be originally for only certain deities, but my Drakkin SK definitely goes from apprehensive to amiable and I like it.
Call me lucky, but i got it on my first try with a 74 bst.
I had a PH up when i first got to his camp. Singled pulled and murdered the Bok's. Fight took less then 1 minute. He is not as hard as he used to be.
Was fun getting down to guk again for the clicky woody crown!
Still killing for faction unfortunally *crys*
I had a PH up when i first got to his camp. Singled pulled and murdered the Bok's. Fight took less then 1 minute. He is not as hard as he used to be.
Was fun getting down to guk again for the clicky woody crown!
Still killing for faction unfortunally *crys*
I killed the SOB 6 times in 8 hours and he still hasnt dropped the damn scalp. Oh how i wish i hadn't deleted it. Does anyone know if you need the scalp to MQ a reet crown? Probably so. Now i want the damn thing just on principle.
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Bards dont need to use this anyways(But it would be nice :) ), with their level 11 Cinda Charismatic Carrilon song, it took me from dubiously to Amiably, Then i did gnome illusion but it didnt go up, still need to try feral pack.
Edited, Sat Nov 19 10:51:09 2005
Edited, Sat Nov 19 10:51:09 2005
Bah, so my rogue with Bris faction cannot use this grrr
You can get lucky on this drop. I came to the Ghoul Lords room and killed its PH. Next popped the Ghoul Lord, no scalp, just a Skull Shaped Barbute. Then a PH again, and then the Lord again which now dropped both a Barbute and the Scalp!
Unfortunately the scalp does not much for me yet, I am almost max KOS to the frogs, being a Cazic Thule Troll that has hunted Guk in his youthfull days. However, I think when I can get my faction to Indifferent by killing a million frogs (I think thats the highest us Evil Cazic worshippers can get when it comes to bare faction)this scalp will lift me up a good deal since going from Indiff to Warmly is a much shorter stretch then the dreaded "scowling" and "dubious" stretches. Not sure if it will take me all the way to warmly though.
Wolfform (tested on outside froggies that guard the entrance) did not un-KOS me either, but it did take my druid from Dubious to INdiff. So I am still unsure where Wolfform comes into the whole equation for evil races.
I guess the first thing I have to do is max my faction by killing (Your faction could not possibly get any higher.) and then see what all the illusions and the scalp do.
Edited, Wed Jul 21 06:41:55 2004
Unfortunately the scalp does not much for me yet, I am almost max KOS to the frogs, being a Cazic Thule Troll that has hunted Guk in his youthfull days. However, I think when I can get my faction to Indifferent by killing a million frogs (I think thats the highest us Evil Cazic worshippers can get when it comes to bare faction)this scalp will lift me up a good deal since going from Indiff to Warmly is a much shorter stretch then the dreaded "scowling" and "dubious" stretches. Not sure if it will take me all the way to warmly though.
Wolfform (tested on outside froggies that guard the entrance) did not un-KOS me either, but it did take my druid from Dubious to INdiff. So I am still unsure where Wolfform comes into the whole equation for evil races.
I guess the first thing I have to do is max my faction by killing (Your faction could not possibly get any higher.) and then see what all the illusions and the scalp do.
Edited, Wed Jul 21 06:41:55 2004
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Can a beserker wear this? I know some items haven't been updated yet, is this one of them?
Lucy lists the following info:
Class: ALL except PAL RNG DRU BRD
Race: HUM ERU DEF HEF TRL OGR GNM IKS
So yeah, Berserkers can wear it if they're of the appropriate race.
Class: ALL except PAL RNG DRU BRD
Race: HUM ERU DEF HEF TRL OGR GNM IKS
So yeah, Berserkers can wear it if they're of the appropriate race.
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Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Luclin (Veeshan) Server
Lord, Lightbringer, and Redeemer in the service of Erollisi Marr
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in All)
Master Fisherman (200 + 5%) and maybe Master Drunk (2xx + 20%, too drunk to tell!)
Sir KyrosKrane Sylvanblade
Luclin (Veeshan) Server
Lord, Lightbringer, and Redeemer in the service of Erollisi Marr
Master Artisan (300 + GM Trophy in All)
Master Fisherman (200 + 5%) and maybe Master Drunk (2xx + 20%, too drunk to tell!)
I do believe that the classes that are not able to wear are not able to worship the needed dieties. I could be wrong tho.
Half Elf Bards can worship Rallos, I think hum bards as well.
It's bad enough that us darkies got screwed in that a quest for an item that would be best for US involves getting faction with one of the races we are all garanteed to have crappy faction with.
But just to add insult to injury, the only thing that will allow us to do this quest is apparently an insanely rare to boot!
Some ogre BL was camping it the other night with a full blown AoE group - they were clearing entire sections at a time without issue. They managed to spawn the Lord 12 times and he didn't drop the scalp once.
I got hold of the camp after they were done and four spawns later, still no scalp (and a darned tought fight too - this 47 vs my 54 and he nearly wins most of the time thus far).
/rude drop rate and quest designer
But just to add insult to injury, the only thing that will allow us to do this quest is apparently an insanely rare to boot!
Some ogre BL was camping it the other night with a full blown AoE group - they were clearing entire sections at a time without issue. They managed to spawn the Lord 12 times and he didn't drop the scalp once.
I got hold of the camp after they were done and four spawns later, still no scalp (and a darned tought fight too - this 47 vs my 54 and he nearly wins most of the time thus far).
/rude drop rate and quest designer
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Camped him for about 3 hours today for faction. In those 3 hours we killed him 3 times and everytime he dropped this scalp along with a skull-shaped barbute. Could be the droprate has been changed though as it seemed to me it was his common.
Yeah, killed the Ghoul Lord once last week and it dropped the scalp. Let it rot since we didn't know what it was for then... gonna have to go back at 61 and tear the place up, I want to be a Wood Elf Necro :).
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If I kill some Dwarfs and get one of their scalps and put it on my head, will I be able to walk through Kael untouched? I figure the giants will look at me and say,
Giant 1: "Lets kill this Dark Elf! Oh wait whats that on his head?!"
Giant 2: "Looks like the scalp of our most hated enemy, the Thurgadin Dwarves"
Giant 1: "Well in that case he is cool, leave him be."
Me: "Hey guys look whats on my head a Thurg Dwarf scalp. So we cool right? We are best buds? No hard feelings right even though I killed plenty of you guys before?"
Giant 1 & 2: "Yup you may pass freely Dark Elf"
Me: /bow. Thurg Dwarf scalp falls on ground and I pick it up and try to put it on like it was a toupee. But the scalp won't go on straight.
Giant 1 & 2: "GET HIM!"
*Start Benny Hill Chase music*
Me: /runs to Wakening Lands Zone line. "Train to WL!" /scalp falls off from running.
THE END!
Edited, Mon Jun 2 04:06:57 2003
Giant 1: "Lets kill this Dark Elf! Oh wait whats that on his head?!"
Giant 2: "Looks like the scalp of our most hated enemy, the Thurgadin Dwarves"
Giant 1: "Well in that case he is cool, leave him be."
Me: "Hey guys look whats on my head a Thurg Dwarf scalp. So we cool right? We are best buds? No hard feelings right even though I killed plenty of you guys before?"
Giant 1 & 2: "Yup you may pass freely Dark Elf"
Me: /bow. Thurg Dwarf scalp falls on ground and I pick it up and try to put it on like it was a toupee. But the scalp won't go on straight.
Giant 1 & 2: "GET HIM!"
*Start Benny Hill Chase music*
Me: /runs to Wakening Lands Zone line. "Train to WL!" /scalp falls off from running.
THE END!
Edited, Mon Jun 2 04:06:57 2003
Scholar
47 posts
rofl!
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 21 2003 at 7:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i have heard some stupid people say some really stupid things before but you topped them all. Everyone who reads your post will be more stupid afterwards...
That's what you call comedy.
I'm sorry you failed to recognize it.
You are only stupid if you fail to recoginize it.
I'm sorry you failed to recognize it.
You are only stupid if you fail to recoginize it.
Item Lore: A Bloody Froglok Scalp.
This item gives positive faction to Frogloks of Guk.
It adds just enough good-side Guk faction (+250) to allow evil characters to be able to do the Crown of Deceit quest.
This item gives positive faction to Frogloks of Guk.
It adds just enough good-side Guk faction (+250) to allow evil characters to be able to do the Crown of Deceit quest.
3 posts
Im Kos as a Gnome Necro...with this on I'm... KoS as a Gnome Necro...with this on and Illusion:Wood Elf im.....KoS still GM's answer...thats just how it is its not broken or anything.
4 posts
Frogloks have always been a "good race", they didn't come up with all that "Mithanial" stuff for LoY. Dark races, classs, and gods are not welcome un upper guk without a huge faction rehaul.
However, there was a quest added. The crown of the deciever requires a LOT of upper guk faction, and it would be unfair to make the darks work twice as hard for it. So, they added an item with a faction modifier to a high level undead frog to help out. Voila.
However, there was a quest added. The crown of the deciever requires a LOT of upper guk faction, and it would be unfair to make the darks work twice as hard for it. So, they added an item with a faction modifier to a high level undead frog to help out. Voila.
Why can't Barbarians who worhip Rallos Zek use this? that sucks....half elves and humans who worship RZ can use it =/
Probably because barbarian + rallos zek doesn't make your hard faction modifier as low as being an evil race + rallos zek. Thus your faction cap is high enough to do the crown of deceit quest w/o the scalp
I thought all Barbs had to worship The tribunal no matter what.
Barb warriors can follow RZ
And they start KoS to frogloks of guk, around 250 dead frogs got me my faction to dubiously tho
How common/rare is this thing?
One faction I know it raises is live side frogs. I got this just the other night and we were clearing from frenzy to lord so i ran back to frenzy room. Without this on, apprehensive to the live frog in the cage in frenzy room, with this on amiable.
"Cheaters never win, winners never get caught."
This is in fact the only faction it modifies. I don't know why everyone else who posted on the page is so mystified by that. Just use common sense, it dropped of the leader of the undead frogloks, the arch enemies of the live frogloks, who do you think would be happiest to see proof you killed him? Duh. Identify does show this by the way.
The main purpose of this is to help the followers of evil deities, who have worse faction with the live frogloks, to be able to get the crown of deceit. Keepin minsd it won't get you from KOS to ally by itself, you're still going to need to kill TONS of undead frogloks to ever do the quest. But this is a nice boost in the right direction.
The main purpose of this is to help the followers of evil deities, who have worse faction with the live frogloks, to be able to get the crown of deceit. Keepin minsd it won't get you from KOS to ally by itself, you're still going to need to kill TONS of undead frogloks to ever do the quest. But this is a nice boost in the right direction.
7 posts
As with all the faction modifiers - have someone cast identity on the item, and it will list the factions it modifies.
Icaria Quellarion
57 Enchantress of Morrell Thule
Icaria Quellarion
57 Enchantress of Morrell Thule
Just for those who are confusing the two: the deity restrictions and faction modifier are TOTALLY UNRELATED. They may be related in concept (e.g. the item designer may have put them both there for the same reasons), but the effect of faction modifiers has nothing to do with the deity restrictions.
So, to the person who guessed that this would raise your faction with PoH residents, that's quite possible. We don't know the faction that it modifies, so we have no way to know for sure. My guess is that it raises faction with all of the dark races. Again, just a guess.
So, to the person who guessed that this would raise your faction with PoH residents, that's quite possible. We don't know the faction that it modifies, so we have no way to know for sure. My guess is that it raises faction with all of the dark races. Again, just a guess.
PoH residents? Dark races? What are you smoking anyway?! Even for a guess, it's a dumb guess. This raises faction with Frogloks of Guk, which if you thought about it, makes perfect sense. The live frogloks hate the undead ones, and this drops off the leader of the undead frogloks. Even if you didn't just cast identify, using common sense would allow you to figure that out. Why anyone would think it would raise faction with Plane of Hate residents is beyond me. And most of the people who can wear this are likely to be a dark race anyway.
Thank you, Troodon, thank you! Thank you for trying to spreak a little sanity/brain power into this dim-bulb world! For anyone's information, items that have a "faction modifier" only modify one faction -- the faction found in that zone (or, a faction, if, like Lower Guk, there is more than one faction for all of the inhabitants). The Planar Traveler's Manual, or Amulet of the Haven do NOT give you better faction with the Inhabitants of the Plane of Hate. They give you better faction with the inhabitants of the zone in which they are earned. The same with the Scalp. The only differences being, that 1) it is looted instead of earned, and 2) it modifies the other faction than the one from whom it's looted.
Edited, Tue Dec 16 17:05:40 2003
Edited, Tue Dec 16 17:05:40 2003
7 posts
As with all faction modifiers, get someone to cast 'identify' on the item and you will get a list of exactly which factions the item modifies.
Icaria Quellarion
57 Enchantress of Morrell Thule
Icaria Quellarion
57 Enchantress of Morrell Thule
7 posts
As with all faction modifiers, get someone to cast 'identify' on the item and you will get a list of exactly which factions the item modifies.
Icaria Quellarion
57 Enchantress of Morrell Thule
Icaria Quellarion
57 Enchantress of Morrell Thule
10 posts
It should be similar to the Amulet of the Haven item in Shadowhaven. Without my Amulet of the Haven equipped, merchants are dubious and will not sell to me, with it equipped they are magically indifferent to me.
You must be a follower of the deity/deities listed when an item has a deity/deities listed on it. I have never seen an item with more than one like this though...
You must be a follower of the deity/deities listed when an item has a deity/deities listed on it. I have never seen an item with more than one like this though...
Hehehe, I have completed the quest in Shadowhaven so many times that I am Ally to them with out wearing the Haven Amulet. =) It only takes about 2 hours and 15 rounds to do it but worth it if you dont want to have to carry the Amulet with you to sell and get deacent prices.
Soriab Whitebeast 70 Wildblood
Utopians
Utopians
That amulet was pretty worthless to my druid... he did the quest *once*, and just turning in the quest items adjusted faction from apprehensive to amiable by the end. Equipping the amulet didn't do anything at all for his faction. Since then, he's done the quest a few times, and destroyed the amulet. 
Also, I have two characters that have done the quest in Shadeweaver's Thicket for the Blessed Champion's Cape. It supposedly modifies faction with the Guardians of Shar Vahl... but you need to have amiable faction to even start the quest, and after completing the quest and equipping the cape, I didn't notice any change in faction.
Maybe I was just barely into a faction "title" and the modifiers were there, but not enough to reach the next faction "title". Maybe the faction modifiers were broken back then, and they're working now. Who knows. However, if this thing works for you, and allows you to eventually turn into a wood elf monk or shadow knight and amaze your friends and newbies alike, then good for you.
Also, I have two characters that have done the quest in Shadeweaver's Thicket for the Blessed Champion's Cape. It supposedly modifies faction with the Guardians of Shar Vahl... but you need to have amiable faction to even start the quest, and after completing the quest and equipping the cape, I didn't notice any change in faction.
Maybe I was just barely into a faction "title" and the modifiers were there, but not enough to reach the next faction "title". Maybe the faction modifiers were broken back then, and they're working now. Who knows. However, if this thing works for you, and allows you to eventually turn into a wood elf monk or shadow knight and amaze your friends and newbies alike, then good for you.
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No, Snowbanx, because Plane of Hate has a faction like "Residents of Hate" or something to that effect.
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