At the playonline website they say "Several new synthesis recipes will be introduced to allow for greater quantities of these items to be created at one time. So those of you saying that the price of blt heads will shoot up may be wrong. If the new synths are cheap and yeild 33 blt heads or somthing, the price of all arrows and bolts may go down, but the stacks of 99 blt heads may be cheap still.

At least thats what im hoping, I make my own bolts for exp pt's so im all for this update

I'm thinking they won't change the amount needed to synth. Maybe by 1 if anything. If they did, they'd effectively be making scavenge useless when trying to find materials for your own arrows. I find this an odd change, and it makes me wonder what they had in mind. I never had real problems with the stacks of 12, since they worked well with crystal stacks and lumber stacks. They must have something bigger cooked up, because I can't see why they'd bother otherwise. Perhaps they're hoping it will force sellers to drop prices, since many people wouldn't be willing to be 300k for a stack of 99.

I will trust that they have something good in mind. It's not often I have a real complaint about a change once I see it in action. If it ends up making woodworking easier, I'm all for it.

Won't the amount of bolt/arrow heads synthed also be increased?

Will you be able to craft more arrowheads at a time. or get them off drops at a higher rate?

Thank you, SE for another good update.

this is ganna suck

Buying a stack of 99 lumber is just ridiculous at the prices and relatively uncommon stock they are found in. But yea I agree it will help the skill uppers space. 1 slot taken up on those fletchings rather than 8. That is assuming they also do not change the recipe yeilds too.

Well at least a stack of stone arrowheads might go up a slight bit, might make a lil profit off of lvling a sub in SG

What I had expected, and also feared, has occured. They changed the stack numbers for the bolt and arrowheads/fletchlings, but not the lumber. Sure, this sounds like a good change at first, but let's follow synthing some for a little bit and see how it unravels:

So you want to make some bloody bolts: First, you buy a stack of 12 earth crystals, a stack of 12 ash lumbers, and...a stack of 99 bloody bolt heads. Ouch, bloody bolt heads are already astronomical at 12 per stack - And since the trend on my server is "Pay more for the convenience of stacks" I'll be paying 250,000 gil for a stack of 99 bolt heads, instead of 20K a stack.

Okay, so I gouged into my savings and bought the bloody stack (pun intentional.) Before this update, this was a practical skillup synth for near marginal loss to marginal profit. Now that you do 12 synths, you're left with a barely gouged 88 bloody bolt heads stack. Okay, so I'll sell my stacks of bolts, and synth some more - except you'll only be able to put 7 stacks of bolts up in your AH listing! If you're HQing, you're already past that limit, and another set of 12 synths would put you over it even during skillup!

Okay, let's say you have 15 mules at your disposal (Squeenix thanks you!) and you can afford the additional stacks of lumber and crystals it would take to synth ALL of those bolts. But wait, you're still left with 3 bolt heads! Now I have to go and buy singles to complete my synth session?!?!?

Oh, and you're not the only person who would be stuck in the same boat, everyone who used this as a profit synth would literally be forced to flood the market with them if they ever wanted to get rid of all of their bolt heads. Prices will drop to a point below profit margin, and the synth becomes undesireable, even for seldom synths when demand rises. Why? because someone would have to buy that big expensive stack of bolt heads and have it clogging the colon that is their Mog House for weeks before they could do enough for-profit synths to get rid of it. This eventually backs up the market for these bolt heads, which suffer from the same problem - nobody synths them because the singles don't generate enough profit over time alone, and the stacks would also be bought less frequently because of their high price. Instead, smart crafters will be making quiverable arrows and bolts so that they can still supply the market with plenty of fast-produced ammo that they can also sell quickly enough to make it worthwhile.

And let's not forget the poor people who survive on these status arrows and bolts. The price of these will jump, of course, because supply will be starved and demand will rise for the rare ammo.

This will happen quickly after the update, mark my words.

Edited, Tue Feb 14 15:25:08 2006

Everyone realizes that Lumber still stacks in 12 though. So you will have to carry a ton of lumber around with you still.
I am also interested in the new synths and how that will all work. I guess we will all find out together.

LMAO, lets see you try to fit 12 potions in a bottle,,, Now if they had "pills" I could understand stacking to 12 or more.

well that sorta sux only choco and yag fletchings r being changed :( i was hoping all fletchings would be changed. of course this would be cool if they did the same to lumber then crafting my own bolts/arrows would be even better

Is Bloody bolts listed up on the list?

I find it quite humurous they decided to do this when alchemy has so many medicines and ingredients that are 100% unstackable. It'd be nice if they bothered to make things like potions and ethers stack at least to 12.