I dont think computer crashing bugs are minor bugs. I also dont think bugs that cause many hours of tedious planning and execution to be wasted as minor. Im not whining, I have never complained about the game until the pok/collison bugs emerged. I didnt ask for better graphics, and until MANY of our guild members got stuck in walls otm to various locations within the raided zone, I didnt care about the collision bug. There have been instances where MAJOR lag in zones killed us, then GMs say there is no problem with the whole zone, even when the entire raid force knows its lagging, I didnt even complain about this. The reason I am complaining now, is things are getting worse.

I believe more testing can, and should, be done before putting out a final product that causes somebody to restart their computer, or somebody to wait hours on end for a rude, impatient GM to come to the rescue. Although, recent news has indicated SoE will be fixing GoD, and fixing the bugs that cause problems within the game, delaying their newest expansion until issues are resolved. News of this stature makes me content.

Also, since this last patch, I must admit, I have not crashed once in the PoK. Although the patch message did not indicate this fix was implemented, Sony and its programmers may have started getting on the roll with making their product better. It is effort like this that can result in higher customer satisfaction.

Will they fix everything? No, that is not possible. Every game has a bug in it somewhere, EQ is no exception. The bigger the game, the more bugs. Although, any game I buy, I do not expect to blow hours of waiting or gameplay, only to be screwed over due to some "minor" bug. If a single player game discribed as such was released, imagine what type of reviews magazine editors would give it, imagine the things that would be said about it. If a single player game was released as EQ was at the time of its dx9 implementation, with a sugg. price of nearly $100, under those standards, many people would want their money back.

I understand ironing out bugs takes massive time, but that is what the test server is for. Putting a graphic engine out that is not ready for the general fan base to use is not a very good idea. Now that it is live, we have no choice but to wait until they fix the bugs. It is things like this that makes me judge Sony everytime I think of buying one of their "finished" products. Everquest is a fun game, with alot of content, replay value, and indescribable fun within, but parts of the game are turning into an unplayable state.

Messages that reassure the public goes a long way in keeping their customers. Hopefully they will back it up, because honestly, I do not want the new expansion. I have bought enough, and I am getting tired of poking out an extra $30 every 4 months on top of $12 every single month. We really dont need another expansion, and I havnt talked to many people that want to spent the time to level to 70. It is just another way to keep people playing longer. The longer people will play = the longer accounts stay open. Another money hungry move by SoE.

Edited, Sun May 30 02:13:16 2004

There is one thing I have never understood about people. You have a game that has several million lines of code in it. You have people who play this game. In the beginning they gripe about how the game needs improvements because the graphics aren't good or the combat could be more realistic. These are not really bugs, just people are unsatisfied with it. So, the designers listen and try to improve the game. Like anything else that takes the degree of designing that EQ does, there is going to be bugs. Now, the ones that never requested the changes are happy with the new improvments and overlook the bugs for the most part knowing they will be fixed. The others (that requested the changes) are not happy that they got the improvements. They have to pull the game a part and down it at it's every turn so the designers have to go fix minor problems which lead to other problems. This makes the insatiable idiots more upset because either they didnt get what they originally wanted (wwhhhhaaaa) or there is still minor bugs (wwwhhhaaa). If your going to be like that, do one of two things. 1) Shut up and play the game and give them a chance to fix it. 2) Quit playing the game. Either way, quit being so negative on every little flaw and taking the enjoyment away from others that overlook the minor problems in place of the major improvements.

Why does every time a patch release everyone jumps to criticize it? At least they are doing stuff to make the game better. Yes sometimes patches make bugs but that happens with anything, fix something up and something else breaks.

I don't see this patch as useless even a tiny bit. They tutorial thing really helps new players and is a great idea. I can't count how many games I have left because I don't understand anything and there is no where to go for help for TRUE newbies.

You can't say that they are not fixing bugs. My roge would quite often bet stuck in the water in SH and I would sit there for hours waiting for a GM to help me out. That is no fun at all and not it's fixed. And they are also trying to fix the pathing/collision issues as well which really need to be fixed. And you can't tell me that you don't love the option to turn off the Bazzar traders. I hated having so much lag that I could'nt even move the mouse fast enough to look up items.

They can only do so much at a time and I'm sure they have many different people working on different issues. And these ones just got finished first while the other team is working on the other bugs. Why not think a little more positive for a change and lighten your mood. It really sucks when your outlook on everything is really negative.

Great job SoE!

Rant on

That is the amount of money paid for by subscribers each month to Sony.

I have based this number on a subscription base of 500,000, which is around the number that SOE have claimed in the past.

Now I dont know about you lot who read this post, but for 6.4million dollars a month, you would think that SOE could get an Expansion right, let alone a patch to fix a bugged patch that fixed a bugged expansion that subscribers paid if half the subscribers bought 5million dollars for.

I wonder if SOE could send all the subscribers a new pc that matches the specs of there developers machines, for that money i think they could buy a factory in korea or some other cheap labor cost nation and give every subscriber a new platform with each expansion, THEN maybe the subscribers might want to be part of the beta test of each and every new patch or expansion that seems to be the way SOE do business.

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Wow SoE, you created another useful bug. My guild goes to fight Emperor SSRA, and let me tell my experience... Working our way to the sig camp, we kill a few sigs, and find that whenever we corner mobs, our tanks keep getting stuck, but we overcome. We get into the room, get the adds mezzed/offtanked, go to corner Blood of SSRA, and he summons our MT right into the wall with him. Now our MT is unable to get out of the wall, so we have to let him die. He dies, we battle rez, kill Blood, and get rdy for EMP. When emp attacks, we decide cornering is not the thing to do, so we try to keep all adds away from Emp. Well, a tank loses aggro on a mob, and since we cannot corner the emp, the MT starts getting beat down, and everything goes haywire from there.

So, instead of flawlessly killing the emp like we did 2 weeks ago with the same amount of people, we wipe at 95%. What a great patch Sony, I applaud your efforts to test stuff out before going live. Your planning is brilliant, programming is excellent, and your implementation of DX9 proved to be a total success in interesting your fan base. If this keeps up, I will be sure to cancel my account, and wont even buy another Sony TV or PS2 game, as long as your competent staff creates them.

From what I can see the pok bug is gone. I've been in there run around zoned in and out and so far no problems. I wonder if that was part of the collision problem.

As for the mobs in the floor yup, that's still an issue, but funny enough we have 4 computers here and we only have that issue consistantly on ONE of them, but it has the same video card, amount of memory, size processor, etc... It's going to take some time to figure that one out I think, but at least some of the things are being fixed.

Quite frankly I'd not want them to wait until they have 100% fixed to release the patch because it would be a much larger patch first of all, and secondly I'd rather have things fixed a couple at a time NOW then wait a long time to have *anything* fixed.

1) for wrongsyde you have your shortcut for EQ on desktop? or wherever it is right click it (Windows XP only) and select properties. then select compatibility, then click run this program in compatibility mode then select windows 98/me. then click apply and TADA! :D so GL to you wrongsyde.

and 2) the tutorial can give you a charm spell? what race? enchanters dont get charm till lvl 12! do they get a earlier one now? i hope so :)

Koidius - 11 Non-Twinked Bard of the Tribunal

No fix for the PoK bug yet? That sucks. The bazaar thing is a good idea, but the most used zone in the entire game is still haywire... thanks a bunch for implementing DX9 and ******** alot of ppl up.