Blacksmithing

Blacksmiths have the ability to forge their own armor and weapons both for personal use and for sale to others.

What are the best strategies for developing and using the blacksmithing skill? What items are the most and least useful ones to forge? Which classes are best suited to take up this trade? Can you make a profit off of blacksmithing, and if so how? Which cities are the best places to practice your trade?

Post your strategies on how to best use and develop the blacksmithing skill, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
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Smithing in Qeynos
# Jul 25 2001 at 10:24 AM Rating: Default
I know that the best place to start smithing is Freeport, however, being a lower level ranger I would like to stick around qeynos for now. My question is, where can i find sharpening stones and other materials i will need in qeynos to start my trade?
RE: Smithing in Qeynos
# Jul 26 2001 at 4:14 AM Rating: Default
Go to Erudin. Take the boat out there and you will find a lady near the weopons shop that sells sharpening stones, small oar,and big oar.
RE: Smithing in Qeynos
# Aug 10 2001 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Is there any place else that sells sharpening stones? What exactly do they ID as, because I can't find them.
HELP
# Jul 25 2001 at 9:35 AM Rating: Default
Im a 22 iskar in cabelis trying to make metal bits I put 2 pieces of small ore 1 flask of water in the forge and i get the message that i cannot combined these items in this container. Is it that im a warrior or something that im doing wrong.
RE: HELP
# Nov 19 2001 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
Another possiblity is that you are using bloodwater rather than water, which is only sold at the vendor near the Necro guild in W. Cabilis. The message you are getting is indicative of that problem. Hope that helps.
RE: HELP
# Jul 25 2001 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Check which forge it is...if it's a "named forge," it might be a cultural forge.

Or, make sure you don't stack the ore. Each piece needs to be placed separately.
Jasle
# Jul 24 2001 at 7:52 PM Rating: Default
Skewer molds are available in E Cab from the bakers near the bank.
Enchanters in illusion
# Jul 24 2001 at 2:18 PM Rating: Default
Has anyone ever tried making cultural armors in illusion?
Skewer Molds
# Jul 23 2001 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
As an iksar monk blacksmith, I cannot find skewer molds in my home city. I have scanned the net and have seen that the only place to buy them is Kelethin, out of the reach of my faction. Are there any other places to buy them or will I be in CB for a long time?
RE: Skewer Molds
# Nov 19 2001 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
Skewer molds are sold at the vendor by the bank in E. Cabilis.
RE: Skewer Molds
# Jul 24 2001 at 4:12 PM Rating: Default
I know they are in Thurg, but I"m not familiar with Iskar's faction there.
RE: Skewer Molds
# Jul 23 2001 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
I had a hard time finding some molds. I used K.C. Guide to blacksmithing and was able to skip some of these steps to get skill up faster..
On the EQ site they have a blacksmithing mold, metal and forge location chart. Comes in real handy...Good luck.
trade kits
# Jul 21 2001 at 6:49 PM Rating: Default
In Primas strategy guide for Everquest they mentiong a smithing kit, key maker and sharpening kit does anyone know anything about these and where they are found?
RE: trade kits
# Jul 22 2001 at 6:15 AM Rating: Default
The Prima strategy guide is wrong about many things. I recommend not reading it and picking up info on the Internet.

Guywhohas Theprimaguide
Andthinksitsstupid
Getting money to start
# Jul 20 2001 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's how I started my smithing.

First find a good guide online that's easy to follow. Then move to Freeport.

Now for money, just go hunting in East Commons for pelts. Mainly HQ bears but you can still get a few coin for Cat pelts as well. Save them up and then you have a buyer sell them off. I prob made a couple hundred platinum in a few days all of which went into my smithing skill.

Within a couple days I got my skill from about 5 to 120 or so. I'm at 135 now, and it drastically slows down. But what you can do now is start making banded and selling it. Best place I find is Qeynos/everfrost area. I get swarmed with replies sometimes. The money isn't the greatest but it allows you to keep practicing the skill.

Good luck
Skill & Level
# Jul 18 2001 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
I am sure this has been asked several times, but are the tradeskills level dependent--->Does your level determine your max skill, or is it the same as the language skills(no limit based on level)?

I have just been wondering because I have had problems with raising some of my tradeskills--but I have read that they are unrestricted.


RE: Skill & Level
# Jul 18 2001 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
33 posts
The usual format for skills is removed in the case of trade skills. My max skill level is 80 (Level 15) but my Trade Skill is slowly approaching 200.
Titanium
# Jul 18 2001 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know how to make a Folded Sheet of Titanium , and where to get the materials for it ?
RE: Titanium
# Jul 21 2001 at 3:33 PM Rating: Good
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Titanium exists? From what I gather, the only metals in existance (standard stuff aside are):

Adamantite (Dark Elves, Ogres)
Skyrion (Iksar)
Medium Quality Steel (Fine Plate)
High Quality Steel (Human, Barbarian)
Brellium (Dwarf)
Mithril (High Elves)
Chromium (some uber quest requiring a grandmaster smithy)

#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 20 2001 at 2:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) YOUR MOTHERS HOUSE
raising money to make Fine Plate
# Jul 17 2001 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
I am a level 21 warrior and also a master smith with a skill of 158. I have all the "recipes" for Fine Plate and have found where to buy everything needed to make it. At my level where is a good place to hunt to raise money. I have heard the Overthere is good for loot and am thinking about going there to the mud pit. Any suggestions and ideas would be appreciated, my email addy is norse_god@hotmail.com

Thanks,
Kalyni Steelarm
Master Smith
Morrel-Thule
RE: raising money to make Fine Plate
# Aug 18 2001 at 11:32 PM Rating: Default
I am a lvl 12 untwinked dark elf sk. I spent nearly a week streight hunting skeletons and furry animals, I then sold all of my HQ skins and bone chips. This made me enough money to get to skill lvl 135 ish. Ever since then I've been selling Banded, in a good week I can make a few K. That's the only practical way for a low lvl to fund FP armor without conning someone.
RE: raising money to make Fine Plate
# Jul 20 2001 at 3:50 PM Rating: Default
Around that level there really isn't the kind of money you need to make FP.. not easily that is
I'm a Necromancer as a main and Warrior as alt.. my necro is 35 and I have it camp Druids in WC, a couple hours of that and there's a couple hundred plat for my warrrior.. if your a goodguy, Jus try buying and selling stuff.. there's good money in that
Dyeing
# Jul 17 2001 at 10:57 AM Rating: Default
I have heard of dyeing certain types of armour but I am not sure how and with what. Could someone please give me a link or reference to a site that talks about this. Thank you very much.

Zelden
RE: Dyeing
# Jul 31 2001 at 12:10 AM Rating: Default
www.eq.castersrealm.com
Definitive Guide
# Jul 17 2001 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
Ok all, forthe benifit of you new people, here it is. THE Guide to smithing. Knarmon's Guide to smithing. Read it and read it well. I have 178 skill in smithing and it was made easier by this mans work. He covers ALL aspects of smithing from getting pelts to locating forges, from tempers to quests. Rest in Peace Frank and thanks again...

http://www.sbchuzzah.com/
(Click on Resources then Smithing Guide)

Thayn
Where do I buy FP?
# Jul 15 2001 at 9:46 AM Rating: Default
I've been try to buy small fine plate for my Dwarf warrior on Bertoxx, but no one seems to be selling small FP. I've tried EC, FP, BB and GFay. Where else should I try? Also, I've just been calling out "WTB small fine plate". Should I try another tactic?

Capelli, Warrior of 17th season
Bertoxxulous
RE: Where do I buy FP?
# Jul 16 2001 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Ask your friends if any of them have dealt with master smiths in the past, and try to look them up. I only rarely go to the common market areas (East Commons on E'Ci) when I want to take FP orders. Most of my business now comes from referrals.
My smithing guide is up...
# Jul 15 2001 at 2:11 AM Rating: Good
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...but, not here. It's on EQ'Lizer's site, check it out
smithy hammers
# Jul 14 2001 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
I am a master smith with a skill of 146. I plan on starting to attempt make plate mail as soon as i hit skill 170-175. I was just curious if the smithy hammers used to make the folded sheets and plate mail get "used" in the making of these things and you must purchase a smithy hammer for every piece you make.......

Kalyni Steelarm
21st Warrior
Morrel-Thule
RE: smithy hammers
# Jul 15 2001 at 7:38 PM Rating: Default
The hammer is returend regardless of success or fail
RE: smithy hammers
# Jul 15 2001 at 2:08 AM Rating: Good
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Smithy hammers are always returned, regardless of a success or failure. Heh, if they werent, that would bite!
Cost of Cabilis Scale
# Jul 13 2001 at 11:45 AM Rating: Default
Can someone give me an idea of how much each piece of Cabilis Scale costs *to make*?

I'm not talking about Imbued or Enchanted, just regular Cabilis Scale. And I'm just looking for the cost for the smith to make the stuff.

Tks info^^
RE: Cost of Cabilis Scale
# Nov 19 2001 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
Even non-smiths can figure out what it costs *to make* cabilis scale. Just find the recipes online for each piece and then go and price the materials in the recipe. From my recollection, one-sheet pieces cost around 17pp and three-sheet pieces around 35pp.

Missing from these "costs" are two things: One is failures, which doubles the cost of that piece plus added travel time to obtain materials, and the second is the cost involved in increasing one's skill to around 160-175 to be able to make cabilis scale.

So all-in, you be the judge. I charge 40-70pp per item or a full suit at deep discount for 600pp. I do this without batting an eye for I know the *true cost* of cabilis scale.
smithing guide
# Jul 13 2001 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
Here is a smithing guide I have compiled from various sources.
What to make at what skill levels:

0-21 METAL BITS
21-51 TOOLBOXES
51-68 LANTERNS
68-82 SHURIKENS (FIND OUT IF SHURIKENS COST MORE THAN SKEWERS)
82-102 BANDED GORGETS (FIND OUT IF GORGETS COST MORE THAN SKEWERS)
68-115 SKEWERS
115-122 POTS
122-135 SEWING KIT
135-168 BANDED GAUNTLETS/MANTLE
168-175 CLOAK
175-200 FINE PLATE

COMPONENTS
FILE - 1 METAL BIT, 1 WATER FLASK, 1 FILE MOLD
STEEL BONING - 1 SMALL BRICK OF ORE, 1 WATER FLASK, 1 FILE
METAL CONTAINER - 1 METAL BIT, 1 WATER FLASK, 1 HINGE MOLD, (SPECIFIC) CONTAINER MOLD, (SPECIFIC) CONTAINER LID MOLD
SHEET OF METAL - 2 SMALL BRICKS OF ORE, 1 WATER FLASK
TOOLBOX - 1 METAL BIT, 1 WATER FLASK
COOKIE CUTTERS - 1 METAL BIT, 1 WATER FLASK, (SPECIFIC) SHAPED COOKIE MOLD
FOLDED SHEET OF METAL - 1 BLOCK OF ORE, 1 WATER FLASK, 1 SMITHY HAMMER
MUFFIN TIN - 1 METAL BIT, 1 WATER FLASK, 1 MUFFIN TIN MOLD, 1 CERAMIC LINING
PIE TIN - 1 METAL BIT, 1 WATER FLASK, 1 PIE TIN MOLD, 1 CERAMIC LINING
CAKE ROUND - 1 METAL BIT, 1 WATER FLASK, 1 CAKE ROUND MOLD, 1 CERAMIC LINING
SMOKER - 1 METAL BIT, 1 WATER FLASK, 1 SKEWER, 1 SMOKER BASE MOLD, 1 SMOKER SUPPORT MOLD
LARGE BRICK OF ORE - 3 SMALL BRICKS OF ORE, 1 WATER FLASK
BLOCK OF ORE - 3 LARGE BRICKS OF ORE, 1 WATER FLASK
SKINNING KNIFE - DAGGER BLADE MOLD, HILT MOLD, SMALL BRICK OF ORE, WATER
GORGET (AC5) - SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, GORGET MOLD
BRACERS (AC6) - SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, BRACER MOLD
BOOTS (AC6) - SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, BOOT MOLD
MASK (AC4) – (2) SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, MASK MOLD
SLEEVES (AC7) – (2) SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, SLEEVES MOLD
HELM (AC8) – (2) SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, HELM MOLD
BELT (AC6) – (2) SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, BELT MOLD
MANTLE (AC6) – (2) SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, MANTLE MOLD
GAUNTLETS (AC7) – (2) SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, GAUNTLET MOLD
CLOAK (AC7) – (2) SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, CLOAK MOLD
TUNIC (AC15) – (3) SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, TUNIC MOLD
LEGGINGS (AC8) – (3) SHEET OF METAL, FLASK OF WATER, LEGGINGS MOLD
MORNING STAR - FLASK OF WATER, METAL SHEET, HILT MOLD, SPIKED BALL MOLD.
******* SWORD - FLASK OF WATER, METAL SHEET, HILT MOLD, POMMEL MOLD, DUAL EDGE MOLD.
2H SWORD - FLASK OF WATER, METAL SHEET, HILT MOLD, POMMEL MOLD, HEAVY STEEL BLADE MOLD.
METAL BITS [151CP] – 2 SMALL PIECES OF ORE, WATER
SCALARS – METAL BIT + SCALAR MOLD + WATER
SKEWERS – METAL BIT + SKEWER MOLD + WATER
LANTERNS – METAL BIT + LANTERN MOLD + BOTTLE + WATER
POTS – METAL BIT + POT MOLD + STANDING LEGS MOLD + WATER
SEWING KITS – METAL BIT + NEEDLE MOLD + THIMBLE MOLD + WATER
FILE [144CP] – METAL BIT + FILE MOLD + WATER
STUD [486CP] – FILE + WATER + (3) METAL BITS (SEPARATED, NEVER STACK)
RE: smithing guide
# Jul 16 2001 at 3:13 PM Rating: Default
Thanks, man. This guide got me from 21 to 50 in a half hour (while still fighting some!). Also, how do you make shurikens and where do you get the ingrediants in the Freeport area?
Fools
# Jul 12 2001 at 3:12 PM Rating: Default
People, people. You keep saying to put some recipies on the post boards. WHY!? It's all on the page here on skills!
Troll Cultural Armor?
# Jul 12 2001 at 2:18 AM Rating: Decent
Duz anywun kno how ta make da Trollie stuff? Me wanna make da special Troll plate an` stuff but not sure what me need. Dankies
i need INFO
# Jul 10 2001 at 9:50 PM Rating: Default
PUT the stupid website down if ya going to say where ya found how to make all this stuff i thought this place was for INFO not stuff to just say PLZ stop putting crap thats not worth anything and start putting crap thats worth something
Large Leather Gorgets?
# Jul 10 2001 at 12:32 AM Rating: Default
Where may I be able to locate these? I am in need of them to create my Barbarian Cultural Armor Gorget. Any help would be great=)
Will Someone Please Tell Me?
# Jul 10 2001 at 12:26 AM Rating: Default
I have searched quite a bit and have not been able to locate a "Large Leather Gorget" For Barbarian Cultural Blacksmithy. Could Someone Please Give Me A Detailed Description Of Where To Locate One? So I Far I Am Yet To Prevail.(All Known Vendors Would Be Appreciated, Or Just The One Closest To Halas, Or In Halas For That Matter)
Thanks A Ton
RE: Will Someone Please Tell Me?
# Jul 17 2001 at 10:48 AM Rating: Default
Go to www.eqtradeskills.com I believe if the adresse is correct (it is something along those line) you will be able to go to Blacksmithing and then find a list of where everycomponet is sold in Norrath. Good luck!

Zelden
Guild Master of the Blood of Innoruuk
Master Smith
Tallon Zek
Cabilis Scale armor
# Jul 09 2001 at 11:50 PM Rating: Default
Does anyone know if Cabilis Scale armor is crafted? I believe it is But I am not sure, and What is the normal cost of it for someone looking to buy? and how easy is it to find.. if you are an iskar that is of course..
RE: Cabilis Scale armor
# Jul 10 2001 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
Cabilis armor is crafted. it can only be made by an iksar in the cabilis forge at the warrior's guild. A smith needs to have a skill of 170 i beleive, to begin making it. And they won't be able to make all pieces. i hear the cloak for cabilis scale does not become trivial untill lvl 200. And being as it takes around 40pp to make cabilis scale....not to many people really want to keep making it, since failure can be so costly.
The average price is 4 or 5pp per AC. (Can't remember)
There is also imbued cabilis scale. Each piece of imbued will give extra STR and WIS. Great for a shammy..which is what you need to make it. A shaman needs to imbue a piece of amber and then you just pop it into the regualr recipe for cabilis scale. (the shaman needs to be a lvl 29 to be able to cast the spell)

Hope this helps.

(Crimsonmist: Iksar Shaman)
RE: Cabilis Scale armor
# Nov 19 2001 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
At least on the Morrell-Thule server, I have yet to see a master smith selling cabilis scale on a per-AC basis. The going rate is 40-70pp per item depending on the number of sheets/scales used and the skill involved in making the item.

As for imbued cabilis scale it is great for shamen, but it is very rare and expensive as the ingredients are such and you have to be a master brewer as well for the temper. At 177 skill I am not willing to risk the precious ingredients to attempt to make anything imbued.

Just my 2cp.
skill 30
# Jul 09 2001 at 10:09 PM Rating: Decent
What should I make when I am at skill lvl 30? I need to get up quickly anybody got any ideas? thank you all
skill 30
# Jul 09 2001 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
What should I make when I am at skill lvl 30? I need to get up quickly anybody got any ideas? thank you all
RE: skill 30
# Jul 12 2001 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
After fish scalers make lanterns to 60 something.
-metal bits, lantern casing mold, bottle, flask of water
-Zelden
RE: skill 30
# Jul 12 2001 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Fish Scalers...

Scaler mold, metal bits, flask of water.

They are cheap, the finished product sells back to merchants, and they do not trivialize until 41. Good luck.
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