Tutorials - Out of Gloomingdeep  

Hail Secalna Galnor and select Alternate Advancement from the task list.

Description under listing is:

Gultrog Undbrige is willing to tell you more about Alternate Advancement abilities. Listen to Gultrog and follow his directions to learn more.

Gultrog is a troll standing under the bridge behind Secalna. He needs to be entered into the database as he does not show up as an NPC anywhere and he also needs to be connected to this quest.

Once you click accept the task will pop up into your quest window.

Speak to Gultrog Undbrige in the Plane of Knowledge. 0/1
Learn about Alternate Advancement 0/1

Gultrog is right behind Secalna under the bridge. Hail him

Hail to you as well, soandso! Your name carries good reputation within circles I travel. Though you've seen and learned much along the way, I'm sure I have much I can teach you as you continue your journey if your [interested]

click or say [interested]

He responds "Alternate Advancement, or AA as we'll call them, are ways for you to improve your abilities beyond the usual experience levels. Some of these abilities are passive, meaning their benefits are always on, while others are active, requiring action to trigger them, with some time before they are usable again. Its probably easier to show you. Let me know when you're ready to [continue}

Click or say [continue]

Your AA window will pop up and a second descriptor window that will describe in detail all of the windows. Click OK after reading each one

You will get 2 lines of "your task Alternate Advancement has been updated" and then the completion notice and the quest will leave your quest window.

Then in yellow: You have learned about Alternate Advancement. Now you can start doing great things!

No coin reward. The quest is repeatable.

This was posted today in forums when players were questioning why she was not showing:

Secalna will not spawn until Dragons of Norrath because of the quests she gives. Per Dev/Ngreth.

Since "Out of Gloomingdeep" is part of the achievements in Hero's Journey could we correct this?

"If you are level 10 or under, a task window pops up offering various tutorial tasks. "

The window that pops up with the task list is for any level and does not require you to return to Gloomingdeep.

It should be "if you are level 10 and under she will send you back to The Mines of Gloomingdeep. And/or "if you are over level 1 a window pops up with additional tutorial tasks."

There is no level restrictions on Out of Gloomingdeep and you cannot shroud down to return to the mines.

This is a great quest for returning players who have lost their guild
status while not playing for years or months and is definitely a must
for new players as most guilds want you to have a few levels before they
invite you. But you still need to use the guild portal to get around.
This has no level restrictions, can be done at level 1 or 100.

It starts with Secalna Galnor In Pok, next to loyalty merchant and Cresent
Reach Stone.

Hail Secalna

She responds: Hello whatever your name is. I hear you are
an up-and-coming new adventurer. Your future looks bright. Won't
you stay a moment and learn what I have to teach? If you miss your friends
in the Mines of Gloomingdeep it might be possible for me to {send} you
back there."

A Task screen pops up, choose Guilds and the Guild lobby. You do not need to
respond further to Secalna. Plus she can only send you back to Gloomingdeep if
your under a certain level.

Step #1 - Speak to Aven Spiritmaker near the entrance to the Guild Lobby.
He stands to the left of lobby entrance in white robe. Loc -353 1333

Well met whatever your name is, I see you have yet to align yourself with a {guild}
Traveling the lands of Norrath without allies can be very dangerous.

You say {guild}

He says: Guilds are groups of adventurers, brought together by common interests.
Being in a guild means being part of a greater group that can help answer questions
and offer advice. It's easy to find guilds that are looking for new members.
Depending on what your interests are, there's likely a guild that suits your needs.
If your interested in {joining}, I can point you in the right direction.

You say {joining}

Task stage completed.

Aven says: "you're making a very wise decision! Just behind me
is the entrance to the Guild Lobby, where adventurers gather and prepare, or rest and
recuperate. Inside you'll find my guild's recruiter, Kesiri Dawnlark. She should be able
to tell you more about guilds and the guild lobby.

The rest is simply following the directions and responding with the words in {brackets}

Step #2 - Speak to Kesiri Dawnlark
Enter lobby and speak to Kesiri who stands to the left before you enter
the big room, loc 163 25

Step #3 Speak to a disciple of Luclin. There are two, one on each side of the big room.
They are in the same room with bankers, soul binders and corpse summoners.

Step #4 Return to Kesiri

Step #5 Find and click on any bulletin boards

Step #6 These are located in the rooms adjacent to where disciples are located.

Step #7 Return to Kesiri

At this point she says "No luck finding a guild? If your {willing} my guild would love
to have you as a member.

You say {willing}

A window pops up congratulating you on being a member of The Novices Of "Insert
your server name here" Like Novices of Xev/Tunare/Xegony etc.
Kesiri also buffs you with a 30 min protective shield called Kesiri's Gift.
Nice for low levels.

You now have access to guild ports in the Standard Guild Hall, which is the door on
the right by Magus. You must zone into the guild one time for other things to work,
like removing yourself from the guild.


There are no officers. Membership varies, there were 297 on my server when I ran through.
You can use the guild banker to put stuff in that you don't want and others might.
Personal banker is there as are the tradeskill equipment.
The Npc who is parcel merchant and seller of distillers for augs and the port
stone seller are there just like a normal guild hall.

There are some high level players that stay in this guild but others may choose to
leave when they find the guild they like. If you want to leave simply click the
EQ button - players - guild - highlight your name and click remove.
Kesiri will tell you to leave target yourself and type /guildremove also.

I started up a new character just to run through the tutorial in Gloomingdeep after a two year absence. I was under the impression that there were NPCs in PoK that gave this kind of instruction. this would make more sense for older players. If you're still under 10 you can go to Gloomingdeep.

While Secalna Galnor cannot send you back to the Gloomingdeep Mines if you are above level 10, all of her tutorial quests are available to those who are above that level. I have completed the Out of Gloomingdeep Achievement with a level 51 toon.