Massive Heartwood Thorn
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Scars of Velious
On The Nameless she has been killed more times than I can count. She is not that hard in light of the new PoP mobsand to get right down too it, her guards (massive ents that silence) are probably harder to kill over all cause of the tactics involved in taking them vs. her. She is just a stand a duke it out mob and doesnt even move after you engage even if you stop engaging her. I was raids with Euphoria that killed her 3 times and none of those times did she drop the dagger.
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Posted: Apr 29 2003 at 12:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I sold one of these when the were dropable
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I may be mistaken, but last I heard RB haste was not effective in offhand. May have been misinformed though
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You were misinformed.
Seething Fury is a worn effect, which means that in any slot if can be equipped in will do fine.
This is one of the growing number of piercers you can get nowadays that meets the requirement to offhand RB.
Seething Fury is a worn effect, which means that in any slot if can be equipped in will do fine.
This is one of the growing number of piercers you can get nowadays that meets the requirement to offhand RB.
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OK i am an extreme newbie and i know i'll get a big line of messages for this but since its 15/20 isn't that as good/ better than the ragebringer?
Yes its much much better than the epic(15/25)
But the effect on epic(40% haste + 40?atk) makes rogue epic a nice offhand weapon with something like this in mainhand.
Killing Tunare is ALOT harder than killing any mobs needed for epics.. thats why its loot is better.
But the effect on epic(40% haste + 40?atk) makes rogue epic a nice offhand weapon with something like this in mainhand.
Killing Tunare is ALOT harder than killing any mobs needed for epics.. thats why its loot is better.
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OK i am an extreme newbie and i know i'll get a big line of messages for this but since its 15/20 isn't that as good/ better than the ragebringer?
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Epic is a great off hand weapon due to the atk bonus and haste... plut 100hp. Most tend to use this as the combo even if they have another godly item... aka khalrazar, or bloodbath, then if you are killing those mobs you can afford to switch out haste items etc etc etc... but for the most part folks. RB in offhand is very practical for the fact of stats and the haste. There are plenty of rogue weapons that take precidence over RB in prim hand. And this is a fine example of one of those.
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Im using the Acid Pocked Mithril Blade in primary and RB on offhand. My guild has one of these and hoefully grabbing another today. Id keep this in primary and RB in offhand as I dont have a great haste item aside from epic.
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The rarity says "ultra-rare"
She seems to have this dagger half the time, and at our last kill she had 2 of those.
This weapon is to be used as primary, unless you have an even better ratio weapon than 15/20, and Ragebringer is a very good choice off-hand with it, especially on heavily armoured targets, as in Luclin.
She seems to have this dagger half the time, and at our last kill she had 2 of those.
This weapon is to be used as primary, unless you have an even better ratio weapon than 15/20, and Ragebringer is a very good choice off-hand with it, especially on heavily armoured targets, as in Luclin.
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Yea its not so rare at all from what I have noticed so far. Our guild just started killing Tunare (clearing the plane is a huge pain). The other day was the second time we killed her. The first time she dropped 1, the second time she dropped 2. I love this weapon. I put my epic in offhand and go to town.
Max backstab at level 65 with this is 614 damage without disc or crit. The backstab Mod is so nice.
The backstab modifier also increases your minimun backstab damage on your duelist disc. It does a min. of 416 on duelist. Still only 130 (lvl 65 standard) on normal minimum backstab though.
The proc rocks big time. 186 nuke (at level 65) before 65 I think its a 182 proc. If you put some points in Ingenuity(sp) the proc can crit. Ingenuity 1 = 242 crit blast, Ingenuity 2 = 303 crit blast.. not sure on the lvl 3 Ingenuity dont have it yet.
As for normal crits without disc I have hit a 1056 crit as my high so far. Havent hit any good duelist crits yet.
Edited, Tue Feb 11 16:02:52 2003
Max backstab at level 65 with this is 614 damage without disc or crit. The backstab Mod is so nice.
The backstab modifier also increases your minimun backstab damage on your duelist disc. It does a min. of 416 on duelist. Still only 130 (lvl 65 standard) on normal minimum backstab though.
The proc rocks big time. 186 nuke (at level 65) before 65 I think its a 182 proc. If you put some points in Ingenuity(sp) the proc can crit. Ingenuity 1 = 242 crit blast, Ingenuity 2 = 303 crit blast.. not sure on the lvl 3 Ingenuity dont have it yet.
As for normal crits without disc I have hit a 1056 crit as my high so far. Havent hit any good duelist crits yet.
Edited, Tue Feb 11 16:02:52 2003
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Not to sound snobbish or whatever, but to those who are talking about how good it would be to have the epic in ones offhand... byt he time you get to have a chance at this item, you should already have at least one extra haste item thats faster then the epic. So basically, I havent wielded my epic in many many months 9-/
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Uhhh the epic effect is much better than most haste effects out there that and the epic has some very nice additional stats on it... Thorn Primary Epic Secondary is an uber combo.
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My guild has several of these, and each rogue uses an epic in their offhand. All of the 41% haste items have gone to warriors, monks, rangers, etc. who were upgrading from 36% haste. /shrug
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Indeed, unless your guild kills VT or NToV mobs on a regular basis, you won't see many haste item drops that are better than the RB. With such scarcity, powarog is right--don't expect a rogue to get any kind of loot like that when it DOES drop. Your MT, SA, TA, etc. will all get these 41%+ haste items before you will even garner the most remote consideration. So keep that epic in your offhand and grab one of these other piercers.
Faster than the epic? Isn't the Rogue epic 41% haste and +60 atk? If so, there is no faster item haste.
Edited, Thu Jun 13 08:24:12 2002
Edited, Thu Jun 13 08:24:12 2002
Rogue epic is 40% haste/+40 attack/+9 ac.
Its that bonus to attack that keeps the rogues hanging onto Ragebringer. Make no mistake.
Edited, Thu Jun 13 08:23:29 2002
/drool....
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It is now 10 20 and has a 10% backstab modifier
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I'm a moron....
15 20
%10 to backstab
15 20
%10 to backstab
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/bog Im guessing Calimyr is the only person who posted here who has actually been around when it dropped. I know only 1 guild with help from another (just helped clear PoG) that has killed Tunare. and that was just once. so its possible that MAYBE ONE exists on Torvo, granted on someof the older/faster servers she might be killed more often but DAM, this is waaay more rare and harder to get than epic. heh.
Mangurabok / Jarlaxxel
Mangurabok / Jarlaxxel
i reckon FoH has killed tunare many a many o times
Dropped whenever she's up by one of a couple guilds on Terris Thule.
Checked my wishlist magelo profile today.. Saw that the Massive Heartwood Thorn was changed a bit.. 15/20 now and adds 10ac. Nice little change.. hadnt heard anything about it.. but thats what the picture on Magelo says - Hp also adds 75 now instead of 50
Edited, Sat Feb 16 21:10:21 2002
Edited, Sat Feb 16 21:10:21 2002
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Posted: Jan 20 2002 at 4:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ragebringer is not so special with the new **** i mean there are belts with 40% haste if you guild can get you the 15 19 wep you will also most likely have 12 16 in your off and rb in bank
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Who needs rogue epic if you have this !!! :)
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As said, Rogue Epic gives 40% haste. Having rogue epic and this in secondary though...*drool* :-)
Just my thoughts.
Just my thoughts.
put epic in offhand and this in primary.. same damage backstabs, faster hits... 40% haste goes on both weapons. ;)
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Posted: Dec 28 2001 at 5:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Rogue epic is 15/25 with a proc of 40 % haste and crasy attack bonuses.... I would prefer epic
Rogue epic has an item effect not a proc.
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I bet the proc taunts like crazy, the dagger would be better with no proc.
Nah, the proc is a straight 182 point nuke, with no debuffing effect or anything else to provide extra taunt. Considering that 182 points is about 1/3 of a good backstab, it's really just small potatoes.
Philip <Chill Mode VII>, Teek server, 60 monk
Axcellent <Chill Mode>, Vaniki server, 105 zerker
Rangerer <Scions of Time>, Agnarr server, 65 ranger
Lifegiver <Iratus Lepus>, retired
100 Druid, Xegony
Axcellent <Chill Mode>, Vaniki server, 105 zerker
Rangerer <Scions of Time>, Agnarr server, 65 ranger
Lifegiver <Iratus Lepus>, retired
100 Druid, Xegony
Proc is good. Hard to control, but it's nice. Our rogues are still able to avoid aggro, and really put out punishment.
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This is a damn nice pig sticker right here.
Combust is a 182 point fire Based DD
Combust is a 182 point fire Based DD
arguably one of the best rogue backstabbers in the game 15 Damage is insane, great Agil Dex and Sta. great effect also
Mrylokar's dagger is 15/19
not at all, it was 12-16. Then it was nerfed to 11/17 and the proc on it was reduced to a 1/4 of its previous power. Not 15/19, that would be pretty much the same as ragebringer; which with the 40% haste is around 15-18 (correct me if i'm wrong). Although the proc is would be highly resisted and pretty much useless in upper encounters this dagger is very(very, very) good.
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There is two Mrylo's daggers (blood dagger and Vengeance Dagger) BOTH are uber and insane especially if you were to OFFHAND the ragebringer With the Mrylo's Dagger of vengeance(15/19)and then add the haste from ragebringer omg you got like a 15/12 or something like that. 15/12 = uber agro = death to rogue.
yep, but it was upgraded again, now the new one dropping after the melee patch is 15/19 and the proc was put back to its original state
Actually the proc on Mrylokar's is not the original effect (a 100HP Lifetap) but instead is a 90 HP DoT Lifetap over three ticks. Nothing to complain about of course...
Really.. Nice to hear; albeit my rogue will never see one.
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Never say never... there are things my guild is doing I thought we'd never see. Only thing holding you back is what you think is possible or not.
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