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Silver Chitin Hand Wraps  
 

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Slot: HANDS
AC: 10
STR: +3 DEX: +3 AGI: +3
SV FIRE: +3 SV DISEASE: +3 SV COLD: +3 SV MAGIC: +3 SV POISON: +3
Haste: +22%
WT: 1.0 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)

Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Velious Monk
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Color (RGB):0, 0, 0
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:7 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Tribute:1756
Lucy Entry By:Tiana
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2021-12-16 19:20:14
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious


Average Price: No Data Pricing Data...
Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 50

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help
# Apr 10 2002 at 4:06 AM Rating: Decent
I just got these today. I traded Cobalt arms for them since I had 2 pair (yes they are lore had them on alt char/account) Heres the deal. I am a 54 barb warr I wear cobalt gaunts and FBSS for my 20%haste. Should I drop the cobalt gloves for the SCHWs and just try to find some kind of belt?
Or just stick with what I have now? I switch all weapons alot to keep skill up and I use sarnak battle hammer/felhammer/silken snare whip/CSS.
Thanks in advance for your input. BTW WTF is a RBG?
RE: help
# Apr 10 2002 at 6:04 AM Rating: Decent
Not taking the upgrade mentioned below into account, with hand wraps and a 10 ac belt (like spider fur) you have 15 ac, while with the gauntlest you have 25. I would say the stats on belt+hend warps and not worth 10 raw AC. If the upgrade is correct, you are only giving up 5 ac, and gaining a bit more stats, in which case I would still go with AC since you are a war, but it is a close call.

RBG is a runed branded girdle, 27% haste belt from OS with nice stats. Costs about 20-25 k.

Edited, Wed Apr 10 07:00:06 2002
RE: help
# Apr 14 2002 at 11:56 PM Rating: Decent
RBG is great, if you can afford it (which I cannot). I won one of these before the upgrade and have been using them ever since. Sure, there may be better items to use there, but I don't have em and can't afford them anyway. Until my plane gear finally start dropping for me, I'll be using these.

PS, a Ranger in my guild and I got into an argument over whether FBSS+CC Gaunts was better than Strawspun Belt+SCHW. I'm using Strawspun Belt+SCHW right now.

CC Gaunts - 20AC, 10STR, 35Mana
FBSS - Haste, no stats, no AC

SCHW - Look up ^^
Strawspun Belt - 10AC

With CC Gaunts + FBSS, you get 20AC, 10STR, 35Mana (useless for Warriors anyway) and Haste.

With SCHW + Strawspun, you get Approx 25AC (AGI bonus) +3STR +3DEX +3AGI +3Sv ALL and Haste.

SCHW + Strawspun = better.

Now Strawspun + CC Gaunts would be even better, but since I don't have CC Gaunts, it's a Moot point. Also, I need to replace my Strawspun Belt(and helm, and mask, and earrings, and a ring, and boots, and....)
RE: help
# Apr 16 2002 at 2:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey forget about the srawspun get spider fur... 10ac 5dex 5agi 40hp usually 300-500pp from what I've seen.. 0.0 weight too. That and the hand wraps is MUCH better than the fbss and the cc gaunts.

CC gaunts(20ac 7str 3 dex) + FBSS = 20ac 7str 3dex

Spider fur belt(10ac 5dex 5agi 40hp) + SCHW (10ac 3str 3dex 3 to all saves)=20ac 3str 8dex 5agi 3sv all. That's slightly better haste, same ac, 16 points of stats compared to 10, and the resists.
RE: help
# Apr 20 2002 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
that would actually be 8agi phoenex SCHW have 3agi which would equal 2ac from agi(at least for monks)
stat change
# Apr 10 2002 at 1:11 AM Rating: Decent
stats on the SCHW was just upgraded
is now 10ac 3str 3dex 3agi 3 to all sv's
heck of a nice upgrade
An Offensive-Minded Warrior's Dream
# Apr 10 2002 at 1:01 AM Rating: Default
I've heard many people rant and rave how these things are pretty much useless for warrior's because of lower AC and stats than many of the other types of guants available to you at mid- to higher levels. However, with the haste on this item, any warrior about level 30 or so can pretty much grab aggro in any fight as long as their weapon skill is near max and they're actually connecting with a mob.

I've been using these things for about 8 levels now, having grabbed a pair after my cobalt guants became kinda' pointless to keep when I got some Cobalt Boots at level 40 (for those who don't know, the clickable str buff on the boots and guants do not stack, and the boots are far better.) The offensive effect of wearing this item will greatly change the way any warrior fights. Damage output on your higher-damage higher-delay weapons will amaze you (try dual-weilding a Wurmy and a Shimmering Partisian sometime... these two poles will wear you out without efficient stamina, but as an assistant tank you can hardly match the damage output with the strength and dex buff.) And in those situations where keeping aggro is a must, even combined with your speed weapons these handwraps give you just enough of an advantage to keep those hard hitting rogues and monks free of attack, and your caster companions will love you even more.

Now with the new stats (adding 5 more AC, as well as the +3 to Str, Dex, and Agi), these little puppies are an easy choice over even Cobalt or CC Guants to the warrior who wants to be able to deal damage again post-30. Take it from a Half-Elf who now sports 211 base str (with cobalt boots buff) and haste, you'll find that you're a more well-rounded tank with the ability pack a little more of a punch.

Thanks to VI for getting this one right

just my 2cp
SCHW rocks
# Apr 09 2002 at 10:47 PM Rating: Decent
Well today, only hours after the patch, i guess ppl did not know about the change. i managed to get one by trading a FBSS and a rygorr battlemail for it. I saw people discussing the price; i would predict that it will be around 10k, as the stats are very good (and not to forget the haste). Lol, i feel pretty good getting myself a pair of those finally. and the best part i had a great deal.

38th rogue
xev
"rogues do it from behind"
HASTE
# Apr 09 2002 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
I parsed these with RBG and the haste is the same on both now so I expect to see a price change.Ac 10 str 3 dex 3 agil 3 all resist 3 better then RBG IMHO
New stats = better wraps
# Apr 09 2002 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
10ac 3str 3dex 3agi 3 sv all 1.0 weight
Haste percentage seems unchanged. The rest is confirmed. Glad I picked up a pair when I did, they just got immensely better. IMO the new stats on these WAY more then make up for the loss of 2% haste on the Sash of the Dragon Born. We'll see how that effects the price on both items.
RE: New stats = better wraps
# Apr 20 2002 at 10:17 AM Rating: Decent
Sash of the Dragon Born is 27% haste. I have one.
w00t!
# Mar 26 2002 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Just got mine today, traded a shrunken goblin skull earring for them. I honestly think i got the better of that bargain, because at my level the % increase in Atk was only like +13 atk total, the haste however on these gloves has been very noticable. Anyways, love the handwraps!

well
# Mar 24 2002 at 5:01 PM Rating: Excellent
28 posts
Just a point here, the description of the haste effect on this item is as follows:

Haste
Description:
Increase Attack Speed for between 2% (L1) to 50% (L49)

Now this description is attached to all haste items not just this one, but while I am not inclined to doubt that a Cof is better than a FRSS it does seem that these items are level dependant. I have seen these handwraps as listed between 20% to 30%, and it may just be that is so just for this very reason. Never the less if someone has more than one haste item and wished to run the test it seems for accurate info on the cap you should be at minimum level 49.
RE: well
# Mar 24 2002 at 6:35 PM Rating: Excellent
Exactly! Hence all the argument and mindless confusion on haste percentages on all EQ boards, the only reliable way is to perform some kind of standardized test on a high level character that would presumably not be subject to a speed cap.
Haste + 2H slash = destruction
# Mar 20 2002 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
Getting a pair of these things this week - I'm currently using a runed frost blade - 34 dam, 49 delay - at 34th level I usually hit for 70, commonly hit for 100 and max at 126 - mind you, these are single attack damage figures - double them for my increasingly common double attacks.

Now, make me faster or get more hits in (6 of one and half a dozen of the other - same thing all said) and you've got a virtual killing machine - I'll post end results after I've had a chance to play with them a bit. :)
RE: Haste + 2H slash = destruction
# Mar 30 2002 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
To say that the damage output with these things and a descent 2H slash is obscene is an understatement. I'm currently soloing on the island out in front of Cazic Thule. Before I got these suckers, I could do from 3 to 5 lizards in a row before I needed to rest and med.

Fighting those same lizards with the handwraps has beefed me up to 5 to 8 - nearly doubling my effectiveness due to mobs running sooner, being disrupted more often, more vampiric embrace procs and more stuns of the mobs.

The ultimate selling point though, was when I teamed up with a buddy who has a 35 troll SK. She uses a centi warspear, is actually a little stronger than me (maybe 10 points) and has a few extra points on me for her offense and weapon skill. With both of us attacking the same mob, even though I wasn't bashing, taunting or casting (except for vampiric embrace procing) and she was taunting, slamming and casting, she couldn't pull the aggro off of me - I was hitting too fast and too hard.

All said, these things were worth every copper I paid for them - I can't wait to get someone to cast a haste or quickness on me since I hear that the spells stack with items.

Woot!
SOMEONE POST SOMETHING SIMPLE!
# Mar 19 2002 at 5:26 AM Rating: Decent
Ok, I have read SO much about this SCH thing I wanna scream! Could some intelligent person WHO HAS DONE SOME ACUTAL RESEARCH (Timed/ratio/whatever) PLEASE POST SOMETHING SIMPLE!
Im tired of hearing people complain about all this haste crap. Can someone settle this by posting the KNOWN or very closely ASSUMED haste of the FBSS, SCH, SoDB, and others? Where can I find a site with actual stats? I dont care about what else you should wear with it, that is my decision, and everyone will be different. Thank you!
RE: SOMEONE POST SOMETHING SIMPLE!
# Mar 20 2002 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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www.monkly-business.com. SCH are 22% haste according to this site.
Hmm....
# Mar 03 2002 at 3:43 PM Rating: Decent
Should i trade Swirlspine Belt for these babys?? or would i be getting ripped off?
Hmmm
# Feb 25 2002 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
Hey everyone. OK, here's the deal... I'm a 34 dwf war on Mithaniel Marr. I am capable of getting a Sash of the Dragonborn and Crystal Chitin Gauntlets, replacing my Silver Chitin Handwraps and TBB. Is the Sash really worth the extra 4k? Or should I use the spare 2k to upgrade something else? Thanks!
~Nomryh Furyblades, Warrior the 34th Season on Mith Marr
Go Excelsior!
RE: Hmmm
# Feb 28 2002 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
if yu can get a SoDB for only 2k more go for it..

on fennin ro, handwraps are 5k, SoDB is 10k...
SCHW
# Feb 24 2002 at 2:38 AM Rating: Default
GOT A GREAT DEAL ON THE WRAPS PICKED EM UP FOR 3700PP ON QUELIOS SERVER, THEY USUALLY GO FOR ABOUT 5-6 K SO I WAS HAPPY :)
What is haste
# Feb 23 2002 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
The short version: Haste increases the amount of damage you do within a give time period. With a 20 delay weapon you normally get 5 attacks in 10 seconds (disregarding dual/double/tripple attacks). If you put on a 20% haste item, you will do 20% more attacks, or 6 attacks in those 10 seconds. To do 6 attacks in 10 seconds you need a delay of 100100/6 or 16,67 (or 17, noone is sure about how Verant round numbers) You will do 20% more attacks, but the delay on your weapon is only decreased with 16,67%. To calculate your new delay you have to do "old delay"/(1+haste%).

Cleben lege
halfling cleric
A-B
RE: What is haste
# Feb 28 2002 at 11:33 PM Rating: Decent
yer right, but the quick way to find out what the delay on yer wep with haste % is = this formula


delay / (100% + haste %)

or in a case with a lammy with an FBSS:

19 / 121% = (somewhere round) 9/15

atm i am wielding a frostbringer and defiance, and damn is it a nice combo! so here's the formula for all you peeps trying to figure out weps new delays, enjoy!
RE: What is haste
# Feb 26 2002 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
The short version: Haste increases the amount of damage you do within a give time period.


Don't intend to be a ****, so apologise if it sounds that way. Haste is the additional number of swings in a given time period. Slight, but important difference. See WandorKilbringer's post for the skinny:

everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8626

... or just check out [link]www.monkly-business.com[/link]

Regards,

Riotgirl [Eliza Dushku Form] Hard Woman Enchanter
Ayro Server

"she's like this cleavagey, ****-bomb walking around going 'oh, check me out. i'm wicked cool. i'm five by five'."

P.s. The reason for my concern is that if you spend anytime in the zone where most auction transactions take place (Ec on AyRo - Bazaar is catching up), then it is mandatory that either (i) people will argue about the haste on a given item - normally FBSS, or (ii) the drop rate hence price, of a Fungi Tunic.
FBSS vs SCH
# Jan 30 2002 at 2:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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You're worrying about AC right? Especially if you're a warrior. Ok, do let's take that one guys example:

FBSS and Gauntlets of the Black
VS.
Spider Fur Belt and SCH

SAME EXACT AC!!!!!

FBSS-no ac....Gauntlets of the Black 15AC=15AC
Spider Fur Belt-10AC....SCH-5AC=15AC PLUS saves

As for being harder to find haste upgrades for gloves....now that wasn't even intelligent. When you do finally get an RBB or RBG, or even PoA belt, you drop your SCH for Cobalt/GotB/Planar/Coldain/Kael/whatever gloves.

These are a must for a warrior until he/she can get the uber haste items....FBSS is crap now, that's why the prices have plummeted.
RE: FBSS vs SCH
# Feb 25 2002 at 11:00 AM Rating: Default
/em bends over and drops pants..please kick me...HARD..REAL HARD..just other day got in major argument with a greed as hell cleric over these..he made group roll on em..i claimed need thinking they were the 20ac chitin gauntlets..well all in all cleric rolled his rigged dice after the 20 minute debate and got his rigged 100..why else would he cpomplain about rolling for a greed roll..anyways one of his guildies were holding the item and refused to give to anyone till the now hour long debate was finnished..finnally after an hour or so and a yellow bub or so i informed the guy he had a choice..do what all in group but cleric wanted to do and give to those who need or get blacklisted on his guilds site..her finally turned em over..low and behold to my eye there was only 5 ac not 20 on these..i was so upset AND ashamed for making such a fuss...anyways i ended up giving them back and apologizing for the fuss and explained they could have saved alot of trouble if explained the stats versus saying roll ohh mine<<though the dice were rigged of course>>well now im done rambling you can hear why i did...i myself have the same exact thing you made example of..sk with fbss and gaunts of black..have spider belt in bank ..oh the shame..i could have upgraded if only i used my head..KICK ME HARD
RE: FBSS vs SCH
# Mar 26 2002 at 10:43 PM Rating: Decent
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--was a stupid post.. deleted text--

Edited, Sun Jul 14 01:49:40 2002
RE: FBSS vs SCH
# Feb 28 2002 at 11:28 PM Rating: Default
/em shoves his huge *** troll boot up Kitkoran's @$$
happy?
haste
# Jan 30 2002 at 2:02 PM Rating: Default
22 posts
Haste lowers your delay on your weapon, ask the people who actually "test" it. You claim to be an expert because you buy/sell/trade alot? wtf? You don't get done with testing your haste item and say, "I attacked 17% more than before"...too many things can effect that...like dual weild/double attack skills. If something is 20% haste and you're using a 20 delay weapon, your delay is now 16, test it out for youself. One of the more accurate(harder to click that stopwatch if it's only a little over a second) ways to test this is to use a very high delay, like a weighted axe. 150 delay using a 20% haste item would make it a 120 delay....15 seconds vs. 12 seconds. Please don't post incorrect information...test it out beforehand.
The Real Deal
# Jan 27 2002 at 7:09 PM Rating: Default
Ok, here's the real deal on haste items i.e FRSS, FBSS, SCH etc...
1) It DOES stack with ONE other haste SONG and ONE other haste SPELL but i does NOT stack with another item(2 haste songs dont stack, 2 haste items dont stack, 2 haste spells dont stack)
2)it does NOT increase your delay, it increases the number of times you hit for example, a 20 percent haste item increases the number of times you hit the MoB by 20 percent
3)I Practically Live in Gfay and i know prices, SCH are around 5-6k (on Xev) FBSS for around 3-5k (on Xev)
4)It is NOT a proc or triggeredm it is permanint, meaning, you DO NOT right-click and you DO NOT fight to make it work, you equip the item with haste on it and the haste is automatically incorperated with your fighting (refer to number 2)
5) The Effect does NOT show up where your normal buffs show up, it just doesn't, if you are wearing it, then we asume you are smart enough to figure out that it is automatuically on (refer to number 4)
6)Becuase you are wearing it, you may not be able to tell the difference because (hopefully unless insane) you dont count strokes on which you strike your oponent but there IS a BIG difference

I Hope The REAL DEAL has helped you guys out, i hope this will clear up any misunderstood things and rumors or myths

45th Season Assassin
Dibber Piddle
Norrath Knights Of Virtue
Xev
RE: The Real Deal
# Jan 31 2002 at 12:13 AM Rating: Default
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The Real Deal is slightly off. Haste can be applied one of three ways: permanent ability from an item (FBSS, SCH, RBB, Swiftwind, etc), Bard song, and spell. Spells can include both those from PC's (Celerity, Alacrity, Wonderous Rapidity, etc) and also from items that use a right-click ability haste (Eyepatch of Plunder or Serrated Dragon Tooth) or proc haste (Mith 2hander, Velium Swiftblade). However, even though there are three ways to acquire haste, only two can be applied at any one time. Here's how haste can be applied:

1. Permanent item haste
2. Bard haste, PC spell haste, proc haste, OR clicked haste.

You can't have item haste, bard haste, and spell haste all at the same time. However, that's not to say that you won't have both song icons and spell icons at the same time. For example, if you take a high level enchanter haste like SoS or Wonderous Rapidity and a lower level Bard song that includes buffs along with haste you will see both the chanter spell icon and the bard song icon. But, the haste element of the bard song will not be applied.

If you don't believe me, get a lowbie chanter or shaman to cast Quickness on you, and see how fast you hit. Then have a lowbie bard use his haste song. Use lowbies to make sure you don't hit your haste cap and skew the results. Check out how many attack rounds you get (how many times the melee attack button is depressed) over a minute or so with the lowbie spell haste, lowbie bard haste, and both running. You won't see a difference.
Take this over FBSS...
# Jan 13 2002 at 3:45 AM Rating: Decent
I would say buy this instead of fbss. Even though this costs more 20% haste isnt worth losing all of the stats that could be in your waist. I used to have an FBSS and elf-hide gloves(im a rogue) so thats haste and 4ac 5dex 5agi. Now i have silver chitin handwraps and a silken cat fur girdle. Thats higher haste,10ac 3sv all, 13dex, and 9str. Of course that is better but MOST the time the more money you spend, the better equipment.
Not much better than FBSS
# Jan 04 2002 at 4:06 AM Rating: Decent
Sure, these are nice. They have haste, 5 Ac and saves for 3. But I disagree that the AC and saves make them MUCH better than the FBSS.

Because common hand items usually have higher AC than common waist items.

Also if you want to upgrade your haste with a better item its hard to find a haste replacement for your hand slot. Much easier with waist.

RE: Not much better than FBSS
# Feb 06 2002 at 6:22 AM Rating: Default
fbss has less haste now days plus if you are a warrior you migth want every littel drop of ac you can afford
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 30 2001 at 11:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) dude oyu been on karana to long or just to dumb. fbss now on karana is 4k tops and these are only 6ktops. get a clue or get a life you moron
RE: Lawman's Wrong
# Jan 02 2002 at 4:34 AM Rating: Decent
Not sure if it helps, but they go for like 5k on fennin ro for the gloves and like 2-4 for fbss

Edited, Wed Jan 2 04:36:29 2002
well..
# Dec 09 2001 at 3:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I was in EC tonight, with 5.2kpp. The wraps were being sold for 'round 6.5kpp and the fbss for 'round 4.5 to 5.5kpp. Now, if I did not have awesome gloves and an empty waist slot, the descision would have been harder. Since the haste is the same, the only diff is the 5ac and 3+saves. I bought the fbss, saving myself about a K, and now I rock, with my wurm and css. Having fun, later
money
# Dec 04 2001 at 9:01 AM Rating: Default
I see them going for sale in EC for 6k. Fbss for 5k. I recall the days once Fbss were 11-14k. lammys 14k Wyrmslayers 4k Greenjade broadsword for 6-7k. Guess a few peeps that can understand what and how to make easy cash with out being high lvl, besides me.

"unknown ranger"
some server
making bookoo money just take time is all
INFORMATION ON SCH
# Dec 01 2001 at 12:23 AM Rating: Decent
No, I have heard they cannot be stacked with FBSS. My friend, a level 28, told me. Believe it or not he sits in EC a lot, selling and buying items to make tons of cash. He is level 28, he is worth over 25k and nobody ever gave him anything, so I think I can trust him. Anyway the haste is NOT proc, it's perm and the effect would work on a level 1. My main is a level 26 and he got these as a gift from a friend, and they work great for me... It has a very close amount of haste as FBSS, I've seen that it has more on Caster's Realm, but Verant **NERFED** it as they do with EVERYTHING ELSE AWESOME THAT ROGUES AND MONKS LOVE, so it has equal or slightly more haste then FBSS, which has somewhat close to 20 haste, or so I have been told. The AC and saves add a little more to it, I strongly suggest this over FBSS, unless you are a caster of course, lol.
what level
# Nov 27 2001 at 1:58 AM Rating: Decent
what level are you able to use the haste on it and can it stack with FBSS or other haste items
nope
# Nov 20 2001 at 2:36 PM Rating: Excellent
u cant stack item haste...its 1 item 1 spell 1 song...all three will stack, but you can only have one of each that will stack)
RE: nope
# Nov 21 2001 at 5:49 AM Rating: Decent
1 item, 1 song and 1 spells is very true for haste stacking.

However some item haste are really spells (right click and proc), so it is possible to stack haste from items like FBSS(perm) and exe axe(proc), but never two permanent haste items.
RE: nope
# Dec 03 2001 at 6:41 PM Rating: Decent
The song haste that everyone always talks about being one of 3 stacked is there... but it's not normal songs that some n00bie plays for you in ill omen, they are high lvl songs that add a small amount of haste, like 5% for the 50ish one and 10% for the 60 one. This does stack with spell haste, but normal songs don't. I wouldn't count on this, as most bards won't want to waste the song spot for 5% more haste, so usually thres just normal songs/spells and item haste.
RE: nope
# Dec 18 2001 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
Does that remark include the new luclin bard songs? that suposedly break the haste softcap?
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