Scars of Velious
Well after the second patch they've gone and removed the extended range III and replaced it with mana preservation I. Oh well here was to thinking my Ranger would get something out of this patch.
Edited, Thu Jun 6 20:12:01 2002
Cougar Claw Earring
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Now how stupid is that? Put a lvl 20 and under affect on a lvl 30 item... VI is clearly losing it's mind.
I completely agree, this level 20 and below spell allows me to snare, and flame lick my heart's content. Honestly I would really like to see some ranger love soon, like a ranger pet; a ferret or something that auto forages and increases you CHA by 30 points.
oooo Ferrets are so cute...if it was a ferret it'd have to be worth at least a 50 CHA boost, and then at high lvls mabye they'd give you a chinchilla(sp?) or a hedgehog...how come there are no cute animals in EQ? I mean even hanging around the shop keepers or whatever? there's the halfling who has the attack dog in Rivervale but that's not exactly cute, they could have at least put some kid in the back of a house with a tank and a pet fish..they could have actually done THAT...bummer
How about a miniature giant space hamster. They can have stun or blind (go the the eyes BOO).
Scholar
19 posts
I auto forage, its not that hard to set up....
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how do you set up auto-forage?
Under your keyboard options you set a movement key to also fire the hotkey that corresponds to forage. For example, my move right key is D and my forage hot key is the uppermost right hot key (user key 2 i believe its called ). I set my keyboard option for user key 2 to be D as well. Now, whenever my forage button pops up, all I have to do is press my right movement key (which happens frequently anytime your fighting or walking) and my forage button will also fire. I also do this on sense heading for my left movement key and for mend on my low level monk. Great way to get skill up and make certain that your hot key isnt sitting in the up position when it could be down, helping raise your skill.
i suppose you're a ferret too?
Uhhh sorry about multi post. The page wouldn't go. I think it is for spells, correct?
Edited, Wed Jun 5 13:06:10 2002
Edited, Wed Jun 5 13:06:10 2002
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As of today's (6-5-02) patch, this item carries the effect of Extended Range III.
What does Extn Rng III do?
Extended ranger, according to other sources, gives your spell casting range and extra 15%. Which is really nice. The real question is, does it stack as I wear to cougar claw earrings? Guess I can try some stuff out with grasping root and answer my own question.
Well I logged in, rooted a mob, backed away as far as possible then started working my way in until I could hit it with flame lick. Once I was in range I removed my second cougar claw and was still able to cast at that range. So it doesn't appear to be stackable.
If my finding appear to be incorrect, let me know what you find.
Edited, Wed Jun 5 16:44:15 2002
If my finding appear to be incorrect, let me know what you find.
Edited, Wed Jun 5 16:44:15 2002
nope, multiple items with the same focus will not stack.
read here: http://eq.castersrealm.com/viewarticle.asp?Article=4340
read here: http://eq.castersrealm.com/viewarticle.asp?Article=4340
What does Extn Rng III do?
I went to Iceclad last night with my now level 28 bard. I kite the cougars in groups of 3 which means it's kinda awkward to loot these things if 1 drops before the others, the fast decay rate is appauling. Anyway I spent 30 mins last night near the igloos and kited 6 in total (thats 6 cougars) I only looted 5 of them, the second 1 I looted had an earring, I couldn't believe my luck, 10 minutes after arriving I loot 1. Well I camped for the night after the 30 mins and went on again today for another 30 mins, and kited 6 more, and could I believe it!? I got another!!! Thats 2 earrings in 1 hour = 400pp in an hour. Being only level 28 I am far from displeased hehe ;)
Ahh I found out the fast decay rates are the ones that have no loot on them hehehe ;) I got another 2 btw since i posted this lol.
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I killed over 200 of the cougars in IC and no stinkin drops.How rare are these things and you can argue the gnoll fang thing all you want but im a ranger and the dex would do me alot better than 15 hp.btw im huntin em near the igloos should i move to the other island?
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I'm not sure what the big wonder is. Maybe this would clear some things up. I know on Rallos Zek the orc fang earring is considered suffnicantly supior to this thingy. Why? The HP keeps you alive! True, dex is not valueless...put 2 dex vs 15hp? lol, on Rallos, that's a no-brainer. Plus, at lower levels, 15HP is worth more and more...when I create lower level twinkies, the cougr fang earring? Ya, the +3str would give me about +1% attack damage. Big whoop, hitting iwth a 22dmg cap anyways. (by the way...the orc fang earring matches this str!) +2dex? a 1 in 50 better chance at hitting? O, great! 4ac? Same on orc fang again. So, 2dex or 15hp? To a level one, that's asking +1 in 50 chance of hitting, or nearly double your life? Ofcourse, no brainer! =) A set of them is nice at +30hp and everythign but dex from cougr. So, I would prefer a Wurmy even though you could agrue the CLS has slightly better stats. (anology) If you prefer the dex tough, go for it
Ok, besides the fact that AC is king for any tanking class ( 8ac pair -vs- 6ac pair ). When mobs start hittng you in the 100's, even if that 2ac difference prevents you from taking 1 hit it is way more usfull than 30 extra hps. Also, my Pally would have grabed these just to help the proc go off more often when I go up against undead. (Ghoulbane)+(Instrument of Nife)= 404 proc dmg :p
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1) orc fang earing has 3ac not 4
2) At low levels, max hit points are irrelavent unless you die before the heal goes off (CH is the only reason max hps mean anything, again unless you're against a mob that can kill you before you are healed). Example one toon has 800 hps another has 1000, they are both tanking the same mob with a non CH cleric. They both take 500 damage, and are then the cleric then heals each for 500 hps... what's the difference? If you're of level to group w/ a 39 plus cleric hps become important until then go w/ ac. btw if the lower max hps toon had higher ac he actually would save the cleric mana becasue he would take less damage from the mob =). Now if you know that you are gonna be getting down to your last 30 hps in a fight by all means take the orc fang.
3) Wurmy vs CLS. 2 completely different weapons. The wurmslayer(a primary hand only weapon) is one of the best pre-level 40 1hs in the game. Post 40ish your damage bonus is high enough that the 40 delay in a primary only weapon makes it worthless (buy a lammy or a jade mace). The CLS (equipable in either melee slot)is a bad weapon in the primary for the money at any level. However, as a secondary weapon it rocks. Delay is only important in the secondary for taunt purposes as the damage bonus only applies to primary hand. Therefore the wurmy is a good primary at low to mid levels and a CLS is a good secondary at all levels, apples and oranges bro. btw the stats also complement the levels at which you would use the weapons AC for wurmy, stam(=hps) for CLS
4) comparing 2 earings is not the same as comparing a primary weapon against an off hander.
that is all
2) At low levels, max hit points are irrelavent unless you die before the heal goes off (CH is the only reason max hps mean anything, again unless you're against a mob that can kill you before you are healed). Example one toon has 800 hps another has 1000, they are both tanking the same mob with a non CH cleric. They both take 500 damage, and are then the cleric then heals each for 500 hps... what's the difference? If you're of level to group w/ a 39 plus cleric hps become important until then go w/ ac. btw if the lower max hps toon had higher ac he actually would save the cleric mana becasue he would take less damage from the mob =). Now if you know that you are gonna be getting down to your last 30 hps in a fight by all means take the orc fang.
3) Wurmy vs CLS. 2 completely different weapons. The wurmslayer(a primary hand only weapon) is one of the best pre-level 40 1hs in the game. Post 40ish your damage bonus is high enough that the 40 delay in a primary only weapon makes it worthless (buy a lammy or a jade mace). The CLS (equipable in either melee slot)is a bad weapon in the primary for the money at any level. However, as a secondary weapon it rocks. Delay is only important in the secondary for taunt purposes as the damage bonus only applies to primary hand. Therefore the wurmy is a good primary at low to mid levels and a CLS is a good secondary at all levels, apples and oranges bro. btw the stats also complement the levels at which you would use the weapons AC for wurmy, stam(=hps) for CLS
4) comparing 2 earings is not the same as comparing a primary weapon against an off hander.
that is all
The value of the earrings are debatable. I have a set of both on my Shadowknight, the cougar claw is better for groups where I am not MT or raids, but when soloing, I like the hps better, most of the time the mobs are feared ;) Also, my necro likes Orc fang because of the hps as well. There are many uses, and depending on the other gear you have, there are cases where orc fang are better. Its like arguing that Owlbear Claw earrings are better than Cougar claw. Just my 2cp :)
Morchaii Nightbringer
"You shall serve me twice... Once in dying and then in Death!"
Morchaii Nightbringer
"You shall serve me twice... Once in dying and then in Death!"
Scholar
43 posts
On E'Ci you're luck to get 100p each for them. People seem to want the Orc Fang more. (don't ask me why) For a melee type they are much better IMO.
When I first got to Velious and started looting them I could get 300-400p each, prices have dropped thru the floor :(
When I first got to Velious and started looting them I could get 300-400p each, prices have dropped thru the floor :(
Its real simple. Orc fang earrings are cheaper,typically. Also, Orc Fang Earrings have a HP buff that monks love. AC and HP are more important to most monks I have talked to than stat buffs. Rogues, on the other hand, love Cougar Claw Earrings because they buff the 3 areas we value most: DEX, STR, and AC (in that order).
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DEX, STR, AC in that order?
WTF are you thinking?
Dex only affects ranged and procing...has no effect on melee...except for skill gains
STR however raises atk
AC keep you alive
Try this order...
STR, AC, HP, AGI, STA, DEX
(move dex up if using procing gear)
And FYI 15 HPs is worthles....1 AC 1 STR and 2 DEX is much better then 15 hps 20+
And I have 4 50+ chars....so I'd know
WTF are you thinking?
Dex only affects ranged and procing...has no effect on melee...except for skill gains
STR however raises atk
AC keep you alive
Try this order...
STR, AC, HP, AGI, STA, DEX
(move dex up if using procing gear)
And FYI 15 HPs is worthles....1 AC 1 STR and 2 DEX is much better then 15 hps 20+
And I have 4 50+ chars....so I'd know
Always thought that dex also was the chance to hit your max dmg in melee... which would be useful for a rogue's backstab... str = higher dmg cap... dex = better chance to hit that dmg cap... Why not everyone go make a barb rogue since they have higher str then? :P
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Don't give us the "I have 10 lvl 60 characters so I'm the GOD of EQ stats and info" excuse...
I've seen plenty of idiots above lvl 50 that STILL don't know how to play their characters...
Clerics that run around like an idiot if a mobs on them... Chanters that want to buff and not mezz when needed... Warriors that never trained taunt... there's plenty of them...
BTW 15 hps may be worthless, but on numerous pieces, a lot of HPs can be accumulated, and at lower lvls (and cheaper prices) orc fangs can easily be accepted over cougar claws.
and BTW, does DEX effect Backstab? cause I'm sure if it does, Rogues will be moving DEX up a little higher on your "perfect" list... and I love how you ignored resists on that list too.
I've seen plenty of idiots above lvl 50 that STILL don't know how to play their characters...
Clerics that run around like an idiot if a mobs on them... Chanters that want to buff and not mezz when needed... Warriors that never trained taunt... there's plenty of them...
BTW 15 hps may be worthless, but on numerous pieces, a lot of HPs can be accumulated, and at lower lvls (and cheaper prices) orc fangs can easily be accepted over cougar claws.
and BTW, does DEX effect Backstab? cause I'm sure if it does, Rogues will be moving DEX up a little higher on your "perfect" list... and I love how you ignored resists on that list too.
Don't forget about the monk that didn't practice Feign Death ;)
Sorry for the off topic post but I just had to mention that one...that's right, it has happened!
Sorry for the off topic post but I just had to mention that one...that's right, it has happened!
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The HP's are preferable to a Warrior also if nothing better available, say an electrum black sapphire.
Can a ranger lvl 27 find a group over here, my uncle has a ranger of lvl 30, and he came to iceclad ocean at lvl 26 and stayed til lvl 30? Can i do it?
Tazain Blackmontain <dream Travelers>
Tazain Blackmontain <dream Travelers>
I think that would completely depend on the server. On mine, it's highly doubtful... IC's usually almost empty, with maybe a few farmers and/or soloers. EW is also usually soloers or higher level Ry'Gorr groups. I wish you luck. I still have a pair of these that I soloed at 35. ;)
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How come this doesn't show 15hps. Do these have hps, i know on another server it shows that these have 15hps. which one is correct, i would only trade in my orc fang earring for this if it has the hps.
Xaveor Warblayd
Warrior of the 44th season
Xaveor Warblayd
Warrior of the 44th season
Scholar
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No HP, and its better than orc fang anyway
Hehe, better is debateable. I know a 60th Warrior in an uber guild who still wears an orc fang earring. Why? +15 hp. After a certain point, AC stops mattering, and with uber shaman/chanter buffs, your dex is out of sight anyways. So, to survive those big hits, and make cheal more effective, HP's are were its at. If you are lower level, then the orc fang might be better, especially for a rogue with a proc'er or something.
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Must not be an uber guild or an uber warrior, even the smallest AC bonus is worth more than 15hp, at lvl 60 even more so. In NToV with mobs hitting for 400+ i dont think 15hp is gonna help too much, but AC will. Also, its pretty clear that you're BSing, not mentioning the name of the warrior or the guild...and thinking that AC doesnt matter, sheesh.
Faberin Midgetpunter
58 Magi
Tunare
Edited, Wed Apr 17 09:27:18 2002
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~I know a 60th Warrior in an uber guild who stills wears an orc fang earring~
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Must not be an uber guild or an uber warrior, even the smallest AC bonus is worth more than 15hp, at lvl 60 even more so. In NToV with mobs hitting for 400+ i dont think 15hp is gonna help too much, but AC will. Also, its pretty clear that you're BSing, not mentioning the name of the warrior or the guild...and thinking that AC doesnt matter, sheesh.
Faberin Midgetpunter
58 Magi
Tunare
Edited, Wed Apr 17 09:27:18 2002
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First off this has 1 more AC then the orc fang and secondly I am a 52 warrior I have both couger claw and orc I never wear teh cougar you say 15 HP isn't much I just finshed Vox the other day with 7 HP the other day as the MT and I zoned in SolB dragging corpse of raid partners from the buff room to zone again zonin with 20HP I solo the rockgrabbers in DSP and often end up with only 150-20 HP depending on the fight and if I have to zone cause of adds I doubt one AC will make a difference. Also AC is not King in NToV what tank told you that it is resists that make a difference there not so much AC unless you are main tank even then you do have a soft cap at 1200 sort of like casters who go for raw mana after they reach a certain amount of wisdom/intelligence...It is true I am not uber but at 52 15 HP has made a difference more tehn once this week alone so stop with this BS and just play your own game the way you do!
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Edited, Thu Apr 18 16:06:00 2002
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Actually once you hit the soft AC cap of around 1100-1200 AC, HP becomes much more desireable then AC at higerlevels. Additional AC does very little in terms of damage reduction. So many warriors start switching out AC items for HP items once they reach the cap. Notice the changes on castersrealm creation guides where they are basically recomending you put all your starting points into STA for the HP. I agree that 15hp off one item is not that much, but it does add up once you get more hp on several items. This is why crusty armor is considered an upgrade to crafted even though it has less AC.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Apr 18 2002 at 10:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you're stupid as ****, go try being a warrior, and getting hit for anything above 100, and tell me if a worthless 15hps will keep you alive, then change it out for something with more AC or AGI to raise AC, and STFU and listen to the people who know.... moron
The value of the earrings are debatable. I have a set of both on my Shadowknight, the cougar claw is better for groups where I am not MT or raids, but when soloing, I like the hps better, most of the time the mobs are feared ;) Also, my necro likes Orc fang because of the hps as well. There are many uses, and depending on the other gear you have, there are cases where orc fang are better. Its like arguing that Owlbear Claw earrings are better than Cougar claw. Just my 2cp :)
Morchaii Nightbringer
"You shall serve me twice... Once in dying and then in Death!"
Morchaii Nightbringer
"You shall serve me twice... Once in dying and then in Death!"
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If you cant solo these at lvl 30 with careful pulling. whats wrong with you i have been killing these kitty's for 5 lvls now on my pally, sure I died a few times but thats cuz i wasnt paying attention when I pulled and ended up with 3 or 4 kats on me. Now i havent died once in the past 3 lvls there. btw the earrings are nice but an orc fang is better with the + 15 hp thing they got but these are second best for fang earrings :) if you want a pair just kill a million kitties i have looted three which aint too bad, aint too good either but the rare drop makes it worth some plat
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sure you can solo these at 30, I did it with my SK for a bit, but the kills are slow, the xp sucks, and the chance of one dropping the earring sucks killing at that rate, you would likely have to solo for hours just to see one drop. much better things you could be doing with your time at level 30.
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How is 3AC, 3str, and 15hp better than 4AC, 3str, and 2dex? The Cougar Claw Earrings have 1 more AC, equal strength, and 2 dex instead of 15 hp. 15 hp won't do you much good when mobs hit for 40 each time.
+15hp isnt that great when you consider that at the level of the cougars, plus anything else you fight from that level on, will hit you for 3 to 4 times as much. I personally would rather have the dex.
Just my opinion
Just my opinion
Amen to that post, Praise Tunare, i played for 2 hours last night and between me and my rogue friend we got 4 earrings, we imidiayly Removed our crappy little orc fang earring's, i gave mine to a wizard who was sitting and medding at the dock who had a jade and mithiril earirng in his ear slot's (i didnt ask..)... didnt even charge him. and now i crit with my bow a little more often and hey my AC Went up... and all of us meelee types know that AC/Strngth is the Only Way to go....
Runical StormBow 34th Season Ranger of Tunare, Luclin Server
Edited, Tue Mar 26 15:01:14 2002
Runical StormBow 34th Season Ranger of Tunare, Luclin Server
Edited, Tue Mar 26 15:01:14 2002
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I wouldn't agree AC/Str is only way to go, I would say HP more important than AC and Dex>Str atleast for SK, HP/Sta/Dex/AC/Str most important in that order for SK imo
Ninaelyan Shadowsmith
54 Reaver
The Nameless Server
<Karma Affinity>
Ninaelyan Shadowsmith
54 Reaver
The Nameless Server
<Karma Affinity>
I finally have a set (a pair of earrings)! I don't know if there are better earrings for a Ranger, but the combined plus 8 AC works for me. If any Rangers read this post, please advise if I should be looking for another pair of earrings. I understand Ranger's should concentrate on AC, AGI, STR then WIS. Is that correct?
Camyla
Wood Elf - Ranger
10th Season
Camyla
Wood Elf - Ranger
10th Season
Got one earring in like 2 hours or so of messing around killing cougars. Great xp if you're a solo ranger or druid....if they earrings drop and you have better just farm up and sell in ec a couple days later.
Can a level 41 monk solo these? will they train? What is max dmg. of cougars?
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Thats BS. I started soloing snow courgars at lvl 36. They r great exp. Bring lots of badages when u go. BTW I havent found any cougar claw earings yet.
Qualei
Monk of the 37th season
Qualei
Monk of the 37th season
Sorry ,Monks can't handle these weak cats.....
dude of course you can solo them, i do it all the time as a 33 ranger(ya fear helps a lil but o well) just watch for trains....but then again monks have FD ;) most you'll get is 2 or 3 in 1 pull and you should be able to handle that.
I had posted before about these not dropping too often. It was kind of frustrating. Well, the other day I was grouped with a 36 necro, a 32 Mage, a 32 wiz and a 30 enchanter. We were chain pulling these things, killing tons of them. We were pulling all the cougars that were popping in the area near the igloos. Well, after a few hours we had killed many, many cougars and nothing dropped. Then one dropped (I lost the roll). Two cougars later another one dropped (I WON THE ROLL FINALLY MY FIRST EARRING!). Next one we killed after that another Cougar Claw Earring. Wow, that was practically 3 in a row. About 8 or 9 cougars later yet another earring dropped. That's 4 cougar claw earrings in about a 20 cougar span.
My conclusion is that when one drops there will be some more dropping real soon. Then it goes dry again for awhile. So, you just have to hang in there.
My conclusion is that when one drops there will be some more dropping real soon. Then it goes dry again for awhile. So, you just have to hang in there.
Scholar
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Got one on my 3rd kill, then waited 200 kills or so, got my second) Soloing as a 34 ranger.
Im not exaggerating
Edited, Mon Mar 25 11:52:22 2002
Im not exaggerating
Edited, Mon Mar 25 11:52:22 2002
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200 . i hope you dinged a few .. or you died a lot
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Im in IC and I killed many cougar, but all of a sudden I come across a bloodstained fang... anyone know what to do with it?
It is a piercing weapon magic 9/32. You can equip it in either melee slot.
I have been hunting here since the beginning of level 30 and I am now almost level 32. I have yet to see one drop off a snow cougar. One did drop off of midnight, but, I lost the roll. As the previous poster said, I will hang in there. Bloodstained Fang did drop. Others on this server have also noticed the slow down in drops.
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I have soloed lv 38-41 in Ice Clad and have had about 12 earings drop, I have killed more cougers than you can shake a stick at. These really are random. I have gone 70+ cougers between earrings and as few as 3. Just tough it out there for some great loot and exp, especially if your a ranger or druid. My 2cp
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you guys are goin to hate me, i just bought the expansion, and i ported in there, the 1st thing i killed waz one of these and it dropped the earing. i'm a wizard though so i have no use for it so i gave it to my guildie friend and he gave me his old orc earing. only use i have for it is for str if i'm encumbered.
Hi, my group of a 30 cleric, a 31 bard, a 32 bard and a 31 monk killed 70 cougars in 3 hours and 20 minutes to get 2 earrings. So the drop rate on Karana is 35 cougars to an earring. And we hunted north and east of the Tower.
I have been hunting snow cougars by the igloos in IC for at least a weeks now (about 30 hours) and I haven't seen one of these drop yet. Its getting rather irritating.....
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Woot first time i killed a cougar got one of these.
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Fennin Ro Rate seems to not go UNDER 450pp-350pp
Anonymous
I've killed ~70 cougars now by the gnome igloos in IC and have looted 2 of the earrings. I was going to give the one away but now that I have a pair I'm probably going to sell them for spell money.
Topsoil
37 Druid
Zebuxoruk
Topsoil
37 Druid
Zebuxoruk
M'Lady (30 Cleric) and I (30 Warrior) went and lost our Velious Virginity last night hunting Snow Cougars by the Gnommies in Iceclad last night. In roughly 3 hours of hunting we killed 25 of the pretty white kitties and looted 1 of the Earrings. A friend of mine was over there a month or so ago and in 4 hours of more heavily hunting came up with 4 earrings.
As for the mention of price, they seem to be running around 150pp to 250pp on on Morell Thule right now with most falling right in the middle. See a lot of "200pp or 350pp for the Pair" deals.
As for the mention of price, they seem to be running around 150pp to 250pp on on Morell Thule right now with most falling right in the middle. See a lot of "200pp or 350pp for the Pair" deals.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Aug 25 2001 at 3:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nice try, 9 in 4 hours ?
Unlikely, but not impossible. The odds of a snow cougar having one are about 3%, but it's still a dice roll on each snow cougar. Just like in RL gambling, you can have runs of good or bad luck. You might fight cougars for days and never get one, or you might get 9 in four hours. It's not necessarily bull@#%^ as you claim.
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