I see all these posts about how crap this thing is, but with the new weaps for SK's and Pallies and shield block this thing rocks! 75ac! 125hp! damn!! i want one but I have never seen one drop...
I beleive it hasnt dropped for a long while...My pally friend has one on my server and he got his before Vt was changed(back when AHR and such did a real GFLUX and AE blind). I havent seen anyone with it besides him and a few other lucky people on other servers
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Posted:Jun 27 2003 at 12:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Despite this being the wrong page, I am going to say something about weapon ratio. I hope that people will start using a a proper method to describe weapon ratio.
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Posted:May 05 2003 at 1:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ***** you all. ill kill each and every one of you with my shaman
Why are you people talking about what class does the most damage on a page that doesn't even have an item usable by or anything to do with rangers, monks, or rogues? As far as this shield goes it owns. If i got this shield I would immediatly switch over to 1h and use it. Look up some of the high end 1 handed weapons and you will realize you are a complete idiot for saying that all 1 handers suck. Knight's Gleaming Mace, Gem Encrusted Axe, Heavy Bludegeoner are a few that come to mind. Sure there are a lot of really great 2hs but there are also some very nice 1hs and shields to go with them. Even if you have hit the ac cap by the time you get this which you probably have, 100+ hp on a weapon plus another 300+ on this shield from the hp/sta is very nice. Not to mention sv and stats
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Posted:Nov 11 2002 at 3:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) why the hell dont they make all sheilds back wearable i mean obviosly this is a great sheild and there are alot at that its really inconveniant that you need to get rid of your epic or whatever to use this my main is a rogue and i have seen nice sheilds for him and the idea of a sheild on the back is not impossible there are some in the game already so make it so the sks and pallys dont give up the big guns so they can get some ac and a click spell for cryin out loud
don't mean to flame but if u are in VT you banked your epic by now... if u can kill the Emperor you can almost get 1 handed weapons with almost as good damage/delay ratio of that your 2h epic warrior epic 2h is 36/41 : 0.878 Emperor drops Acrylia Handled Broadsword 1hs 16/19 : 0.842 and palys and SK get ok 1hs
and this shild would be a little over powering on the back
Pallys and Sks get "THE BEST" 1hs in the game because we can't dual wield. Have met a dual wielder yet who didn't drool over my Blackblade of the Rain and I consider it a soso weapon when I look at what else is available.
Well i'm a 53 Pally wanting to level to get a hold of this item. Probably the only way i would see this weapon is on this web site , but one can dream. this is a great shield/weapon. Grats to whoever has one .
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Posted:Jul 18 2002 at 5:19 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wuldayen i think someone have been telling you serious lies about what a ranger can do damage wise. There is no way that a ranger can come even close to a rogues damage output ..EVER. Trust me on this or as can be plainly see you dont so go check it up on safehouse or any other major forum.
Dunno... I saw a 60 primal ranger plunking arrows in a mob for up to 800 damage a shot, with a bow that refreshes quite a bit faster than backstab (35 delay on primal velium). Get the right bow, the right arrows, and the right AA, and a ranger will put a similarly equipped rogue to shame in the "end game".
Have you ever seen a ranger with a good bow? They outdamage rogues easily, its pathetic. Being a 60 rogue myself..I watched a ranger take out a nexus scion in GD. She hit for an average of 400, maximum of around 2000...with a primal bow. Basically, she was hitting for 400s every couple seconds. rouges cant beat that, sorry.
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Posted:Sep 06 2002 at 8:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nexus Scion..? Are you totally daft? They're Invunerable to attack. Period. They're needed for the transport of people to the moon, of course they're going to be invulnerable.
Also there's the fact that the scions are perma-rooted... they will clobber you good if you are in melee range but you can stand at a distance and cast or shoot arrows and they can't touch you. So if somehow the ranger was able to damage the scion, it wouldn't be that amazing that he killed her, as she can't run and punch him.
ok correction dont know why i put CoE in there to boost dam output, prolly cause i mixxed it up with shammy atk sow, and to answer the other question , a rogue is dam class number 1. Sure you got dem wizziez able to do some serious abomb type of nukes with their new aa skill but im kinda concentrating on melees here as thats what i know best. A half decent rogue at 60 will pop down a mob faster then any other melee class and this is of course in group mode not solo.
And im not talking assassinate here cause thats like rolling da dice even with maxxed out dex and you got to be hunting in the light blue zones Velks seb upper chardok to even get some small use for it, no on a blue mob to a 60 rogues outdamages anything melee wise unless hes fighting with congo sticks or a broken twig.
Im talking no discs here just your standard type o melee, sure Duel disc is sweet as hell especially when you manage to do a duel disc with a crit on top but thats gravy and not a common thing.
Ill concede to one thing, sure a ranger puts out more damage then some other melee classes but not even close to what a monk puts out and monks are still behind us rogues , thanks to our new dam 16 piercers heh. Hope i explained meself betta dis time
Bud I am just gonna say this, I doubt you know to much about a rangers dmg tables and what exactly he/she can do. To say that a monk outdamages a ranger is pure bs and any ranger that is getting out damaged by a monk is lazy. The ony way you can say this is to take a ranger to a pure melee level, with spells a ranger can prob do another 1000 to 1300 dmg at least on any mob in a quick fight with spells alone. Monks are good they can take hits and they can fd but they arent that damaging, in fact most warriors out there can out damgage monks. I beleive I already went over the rogue thing, yes average dmg is the highest. Ranger >rogue with his/her disc.
"Why even bother to defend you're class?" Sounds like someones defending his or her Rogue and Monk. I just wanted to point out that you might find an answer to you're question by looking at you're own responces.
You're a fool if you think warriors can outdamage monks. Monks can outdamage warriors by 20%. You are just mad cause you played a wussy ranger instead of a monk or warrior.
Hmm why even bother to defend your class? A ranger isnt the prime choice for tanking ..ever he aint the best damage dealer either by a longshot (not even by a trueshot longshot)) at the far point of the game , especially raid situations a ranger shines through in one thing and one thing only..his or hers (but its probably a dude playing a girl, yeah i know theres alot of weird stuff like that going on) -ATK buffs, CoP teamed up with CoE pops my dam output up by at least 10 dps and thats more then i can say bout the shammy buffs they keep sending my way. So are rangers sucky, nope there are no sucky classes just alot of fumble fingered players.
CoE is a hp ac and dmg sheild, I very much doubt this spell has anything to do with the amount of dmg you are putting out since neither of youre posted charecters are a MT. Call of earth will only help with dps if you are being hit. The only way you could possibly say that rouges do more is with assasinate which I beleive can only be used on mobs 45 and under, not very raid friendly. Monks have a high dps but are less then rogues, other then a MB wiz I don't see this long list of classes that out damges anything. If you ever wander back into this forum please elaborate on not by a long shot, you have me curious now, and I compleatly agree sucky players no sucky classes.
only good for the resists and 250 magic absorbtion...which would probably only take in part of the 1st AE. 1h weapons flat out suck, thats all there is to it (for an sk/pali that is), no dmg output on them...oh well.
again...75ac :( thats real nice and all (chances are...better than your BP), but the ac softcap...you'll already be higher
Hmm... I dunno, Black Rock Maul of Crushing.... SHD only, 23dmg 23dly 15ac 15int 75hp 75mana 1hb... Oooh... I dunno... Does pretty good damage for me... :p
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I'd like to bid on this item, plz... We'll start the bidding at 5pts!
if pallies get i high enough level to get to tallon zek they get one of the best 1 handers in the game, hopebringer, its pally only put is 41 dam with only 25 delay
Problem with the maul and other 1 handers for sks and pallies is the insanely low damage bonus, and the fact it ruins two of the skills sony made to help ANTI suck the dps of pallies and sks which is speed of the knight and knights advantage. Admittedly i have just 1 pt in each but my dps has moved from 1 to around 1.5... If you want to pass on being able to do some dmg i say stick with 1 handed weapons, on occassion if your group is way overpowered you will tank high end boss mobs as an sk or pallie but generally you wont and will be around 1100-1300 unbuffed ac by the time your vex thal key is complete. so to summarize and include the item listed yeah this is great for when you want to dodge AEs and provide a light consistant dmg to a mob where time to kill is not essential or you are MAing some bad ****, but generally i would imagine this is just a toy you would put on to self buff then go back to your black bastardsword, heavy windlance, or staff of storms? etc
Details: Mana: all of it. Casting Time: 4.50 seconds Recast Time: 9 seconds (but you'd want another?) Skill: Very little Allowed Targets: Group Duration: Not very long - they die easily Resist: None Range to target: As much as possible
Messages: Other cast: Oh no, not a not a ranger! Cast on you: OMG, What have I done? Cast on other: HAHA, now you're stuffed. Effect Fades: Woohoo, the ranger left.. Quick get a rogue.
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Posted:Jun 28 2002 at 1:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Bashing a class isn't very funny especially when youre class has very latent problems. I am not gonna go ahead and bash youre class because we all know what druids can and can't do, some more then others. Maybe you had bad experiences with rangers, maybe you just suck at healing. At 60 any run of the mill ranger can ks any uber druid. As an example just took down VS for DRU RAN epic peices last night had one lev 60 ranger that was helping he hit trueshot and KSED 2 full groups of peeps.
omg - you are so witty - so sly - so amazingly intelligent - I cant get over how incredibly sharp you are - this little comment of yours just goes out and makes my day - and I am sure makes everyone elses too - I cant thank you enough
Meola Ranger Xev
and PS - if the druid can come here and smack my class, then I can come here and let him know how I felt about it - just as you (SK) felt the need to stick your nose in this senseless babble
why do rangers take such offense to this crap? you people are such wussies. As a shadow knight i get bashed all the time. I'll tell you now, SK's are flat out useless, so stfu and eat it. Atleast rangers do a respectable amount of damage. Sure, at times sk's may be useful in pickup groups (maybe?) but not in high end raid situations.
so instead of the continuation of random babbling. why dont you guys just quit whining and deal? laugh at it, thats what everyone else does. its not a big friggen deal