I need giant bat wings and giant bat fur. I have been the length of the zone on the paths, to Adventurer's Camp, Dagnor's Cauldron, and the ship yard, and have yet to see a giant bat. At level 6, I can't go far at night with the Skelly's spawning, and I am a littl nervous about taking my dwarf berserker far off of Butcherblock's paths, especially since there is no auto map of the zone when I click the map button on the top button bar. I haven't figured out cartography yet, though I have a grasp of the loc command and concept. The other question is scalded rat skins in Dagnor's cauldron. I hunted around the entrance tunnel to the passage to the zone in to Butcherblock, and didn't see any. That is a tough zone for a level 5,6. Where are the rats? Where are the Bats? Are they random spawn, or is there a place where I can expect to find them? Thanks in advance for your help.