If u come to think of it this armor would most likely be crafted by iksar sk's and warriors, i agree the str bonus isnt bad but sk's iksar especially need int as well you dont see many shammys doing smithing they are normally trying to stay out of debt doing alchemy, they should make armor for the warrior classes of the iksar and give at least some better stats, after all we dont get newbie armor but a bonus ac but by the lv we can do this our bonus ac is crappy compared to waht others are wearing, although lv 40 warrior and sk ikkys running around in that loincloth with the same ac as others is extremely humerous how many of you could fight in ur undies?
To all those whining that the stats on this armor are too low, remember it is CHAIN not PLATE. Comparing this to Freeport BD chain (fine seafarers) stats compare favorably, and are a lot more resonable. However low AC compared to BD plate of other races makes this a pretty poor choice for warriors and SKs. But is not that bad for shamans really.
However as this armor is clearly intended for shamans, stats should be adjusted to make it a fairer comparison to planar (Hate) armor. All other classes have BD cultural that outdoes old world planar.
Also think stats on fine seafarers need tweaking to. A BD cultural peace, chain or not, should at least be as good as the class specific old world planar piece.
Anyway it's pretty easy to see why GM iksar smiths are extremely rare.
I think it wouldn't be unreasonable for armor with these stats to be made our second best armor, give it a trivial of around say, 225, and take the need for celestial tempers out of it. Then make never trivial BD armor with better stats. It would be more reasonable for a BD chain BP to have say, 40ac, and raise other stats by equivlaent amounts. Also think these pieces should have int as well as wis to actually make them attractive to SKs. Stats on fearsome skyion would be reasonable for a race's second best armor, but a race's best smithed armor should be higher, even if it is chain.
I mean whats wrong with VI - i got my BS skill up it cost me a fortune and i just notice - i can t even wear my own cultural ARMOR??? WHERE is the LOGIK in that??? but!! SHAMMIES can wear it??? DOH, now tell me what is that for i m an ixar necro i can t do anything with cultural at all even not twink out a shammy? The stats are CRAP too so why waste the time and the effort to make this?
The Legacy of Ykesha add-on has added Iksar "cultural" (it's more race-restricted than cultural actually) tailoring so you can sew your necro a robe. I've never played a caster though so I dunno if it's good. Check EQtraders for it.
Hi, I could not help but notice that "Fearsome Skyiron Coat" can not be used by us Iksar Monks (not surprising). I was wondering if anyone new what the Iksar Monk cultural armor is called and what the stats are? Just wondering if I should spend the time to make/get myself a set or if my present armor is better.
There is no BD cultural armor for monks. Iksar necros and gnome casters dont have any either, if it remember correct. In addition some dieties are left out as well, even from unimbued versions.
You can wear it before 45, but won't get all of the stats. You'll get whatever proprtion of stats based on your current level copared to the recommended level. For example, if you're level 23, you'll get about half of the stats listed: 15ac, 5str, 3sta, 3wis, 20hp, 20mana.
This items is not only horrible compared to the other races' smithed armors, but it's worse than the Planes armor we get at the same level as well. If you go to Hate (WAR/SHM) or Fear (SK) you will find out that our breastplates ROT most of the time. Why spend countless amount of money and time making a lesser BP when you can go on a raid or two and get a superior BP for alot less hassle?
Precisely, Redmaw... thanks once again, Verant, for giving Iksars nothing but the back of your hand. You steal our quests, you give us an absolute joke for high-end smithed armor... hell, might as well flatten Cabilis with a Ring of Scale/Sarnak attack while you can, because you clearly hate us so much.
"The world of Norrath has been rocked by mysterious cataclysms. The gods have been silenced. The ancient empires of the elder races lie in ruins, and their surviving populations have scattered, crossing the seas in search of shelter and leadership. Only humanity appears to have been spared from complete devastation." -From the EQ2 site
what do the people that make this think? "o well iksars have some 200ac bonus so i guess they don't need good ac" then later "o what? its only 50ac at lv 60? o well who cares" i mean jeesus to offset iksar ac bonus all you need is a couple pieces of this set compared to a good 1, like this bp compared to a 51ac one, thats like 30 extra ac when you put it on, then we could just take another piece like leggings and there ya go, i mean it already sucks how i can spend forever trading stuff and get like 25kgear wise, then have some idiot with 3 be pieces have more ac then me?
lets see...result sucks for the difficulty to make, no one would ever buy this unless they felt sorry for the person selling it, did i mention it sucks yet? :(
lets think about this VI...make a seperate set of cultural for war's and sk's instead of putting them in with shaman, thereby giving them something atleast a little usefull...imbued fearsome skyiron or something, anything with more ac factor :( jebus
Greetings fellow Grand Master Smiths! I am now living on the streets of Cabilis. I cannot afford the components to make any more of this armor. I made one BP and am now broke due to the fact that no one in their right mind would buy it. 30AC??! Yeah, like how the heck am I going to market that. Tribunal Barbarians are making 12k for their BP. I get beat out for 1.5k by Barbed Ringmail due to the fact that it can be resold easier. Back to hunting up enough cash to make sickles for the PotC quest...
Most Cultural Plate armor is found to be better than the Thurgadin quest armor, not so much the Kael or SS armor, but some pieces like the fierce greaves have been replacing even those. The chain armor has already been found to be lacking for ALL races.
The reason Iksars feel so left out is that the PLATE classes (SK's and Warriors) that have been stuck in chain armor (because of their race restriction) are still stuck in chain and getting lousy chain to boot!
Most people will say "You picked it, stick with the restrictions," but it has already been noted by Verant that our Armor choices are too limited (which was one reason why we were given Velious armor) and while we see our other bonuses fly by (AAXP regen nerfed, racial items given to ALL usable races) we still get the shaft without any explanation... again...
/sigh... c'mon Verant, just give me a reason... if Cazic cons warmly to me, why does he torment me so much...
Edited, Mon Jul 8 09:13:43 2002
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Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale 92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
This is almost exactly the stats as the tunare only ranger armor. Druids go a killer set of stuff, but the ranger armor is similar to stuff you can just buy in ec. A lot of it didnt even get made until a month afer it was live. 250 tailors saw stats on the ac30bp, figured the rest was as bad, and didnt waste the bd on it. I made 4 pieces, and they sit in my bank. Only piece i wear is the bracer.(
I not understand people say that the other race get better culter armor then ss or kael person i not think thay even seen SS or keal armor i know for a fact that keal armor ac is 59 and stats blow way culter armor. and SS armor just 55 or 56 ac but better ressist then kael again better then culter armmor were the best cult armor are ac 50 to 53 with just some stats. person i think this is a nice step stone form the fear or hate armor to help you get to the SS or keal armor if you are this type of person and make this stuff or have the cash
All the chain culture armors are pretty lame compared to the plate version. Obviously AC should be lower to some extent, but I think the rest of the stats should be up to par. I'm sure chain wearing classes value hp just as much as the next guy. My shaman does, however, wear artificer's bracer and arms. They are actually pretty decent (especially the bracers). The work involved making them is just as hard as plate, so no reason for the reward to be just as great.
what the crap VI? you give the other races cultural that is right on par with velious quested armors and then you give iksar CRAP that is worse than our planar armor.../rude /rude and wait..../rude
I myself do not play an iksar, but rather a lvl 60 ogre shaman and lvl 54 ogre war. I would just like to say that this armor may not be comparable to planar, but it is for before you get ToV, PoG ect. One reason that Verant did not give this as high of an AC may be because Iksars already have natural AC from their scales. That is also the reason why they cannot wear plate. Most iksar shaman have an ac as high as my warriors.
I'm sorry, but an either you ran into some very uber shamans, or you're Warrior's AC is lacking. Iksar get at most a 50 fixed AC bonus at lvl 60, which for ShadowKnights/Warriors does NOT make up for the lack of plate in MOST cases. The other "plate" classes get armor that many are REPLACING their Velious armor and such...
I'm kind of disappointed that our best Blue-Diamond cultural armor rewards our ShadowKnights and Warriors with the same AC as an Acrylia BP... that we can't wear anyway... Iksar may be restricted to chain, and given LIMITED specialized plate, but even using Blue-Diamonds, we couldn't come up with SOME kind of better AC gear for our tank classes? heck our OWN scales give us more AC than this BP...
but gratz on the creation, fellow Blacksmith, this is surely an accomplishment!
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Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale 92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
I would just like to pass on a Good Job to the brother or sister that took the immense amount of time and money to make this item.
Now, I agree with it being not worth the time and effort totally, which is why I just had to pat the Iksar on the back, because it is way better than the reward they received for their effort.
*hug*
Don't be sadden brothers and sisters, someday we shall be rewarded for our efforts...then they will shut EQ down.
Ssrena, 43 Legionairess of Cabilis Ssonia, 42 Scaled Mystic of Cabilis
"I have a dream, a dream one day where little iksar boys and girls can play with little human children and the poor soilders of cabilis won't get %#$#$% over having a hard time finding good armor and safe banking" -Marcxus Luxus King
was wondering if some one would waste there time making these i still dont understand why iksar warriors and sk's have to be lumped in with the chain classes, i understand the whole no plat armor thing when they made iksars but cant they come up with something thats comparable for us.... oh well guess i should have made a ogre or something
What a huge disappointment...the other racial smithings are better than the damn SS and Kael armor, which we can wear btw...this is on par with fear plane armor, with less stats it seems.