Classes: The Warrior

Warriors - the tank class. Combining a powerful offense with a strong defense, warriors are best suited to slugging it out toe to toe with the monsters they face.

What is the best way to develop and play your warrior? What skills are the most useful for a warrior to develop and master? Can a warrior be soloed, and if so how? How should the warrior be played within a group? What weapons and armor whould the warrior seek out?

Post your strategies on how to best play and develop the Warrior and read, rate and comment on what others have to say.

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#1 Dec 05 2005 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
Im Thinking of makeing a tank and i want too know why if i should pick a war compared to a pally or something. Please post your thoughts on this and also include what i should put into this class. (str/AC stuff like that)
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#2 Dec 05 2005 at 4:35 PM Rating: Default
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What do you want out of your toon? Whats your play style? Need more info than that.

After you answer those questions, search the forums. There are HUNDREDS of threads on this topic already.
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#3 Dec 06 2005 at 4:22 AM Rating: Decent
Warrior is King of tanks on Raids and High end Mobs. Pick warrior if you want to MT raids one day.

Pally is better then warrior in most single group sititutions and vs undead mobs. Pick pally if you perfer group play most of the time. Altho some Pally's have been know to MT raids but that's far and few in between.

SK is likely the best soloer and best choice for a puller of the 3 (pally is second with their paci-pulls which dont work too well on most mobs at 70). SK's function well in groups also placing 2nd in my opion to pallys. SK's can snare and also add mana to the group's casters. Sk is also the most likely three that can survive if group wipes (by FDing). Pick SK if you like to solo or fd pulling with your tank. I have never heard of a SK MTing a raid but I could be wrong.

As for stats the most important for tanks are Agility and Stamina. I found that for me, Stamina will be maxed by gear before agility but dont really matter what you put your points in since gear will makeup all the differences.


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#4 Dec 06 2005 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks for your help. and I might pick a Shadow Knight.
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#5 Dec 07 2005 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
just so you know the sk thats main assist that fd's to avoid a wipe is the sk that goes on almost everyones ignore list. use it only to pull, being the tank normally means you die first, so please, keep up the sk image its really been getting tarnished by some bad people lately
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#6 Dec 07 2005 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
Ive had alot of experance with people like that. That's why when im on my druid i will sometimes get argo on a mob that i know will kill me fast just to let the other person get away. And i make alot of friends by doing that. I must be lucks because i olny have 1 person on my ignor list, and he did not like the guild i was in at the time so he just sed some rude stuff. But other than that i have not met 1 rude person who didn't like me. BTW who ever told a GM that my group was clearing the zone thats bull. We just were camping the TM in eco and maby pulling some from the frount of the zone but the other camp was full.
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#7 Dec 08 2005 at 6:00 PM Rating: Default
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Thanks for your help. and I might pick a Shadow Knight.


HAHAHAAA

/Pokes Warriors
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#8 Dec 08 2005 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
ello, 4,5 year old paladin here.

Paladins get Pacify spell (= mobs don't aggro at all for a short period of time). 55 is the highest mob level it affects, it has zero effect on eg. lvl 70 mobs.. After that pallys pull with rooting and stunning the mobs, mainly.

(Us pallys can pull more than a train btw; there's always a rooted add somewhere :))



Edited, Thu Dec 8 19:39:02 2005 by Veludeus
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#9 Dec 09 2005 at 12:26 AM Rating: Default
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Thanks for your help. and I might pick a Shadow Knight.
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HAHAHAAA

/Pokes Warriors



Before making this big important decision, I would like to remind everyone that Taunt, which is really the only major downfall of Warrior's, is going to be fixed. SOE has indeed found out it's broken (Finally), and it will be fix'd.

So, if your looking for the Toughest, hardest hitting, call of challenging (Yes, Warrior's can stop runner's at level 70 now), and able to fight MULTIPLE MOBS at once..... You might want to reconsider. Warrior's have unresistable AE taunt, Pally's don't, Sk's can but go SPLAT! When playing a warrior, you don't worry about pulling, you just shoot an arrow and yell "COME OVER HERE!!!" and take them ALL ON!!

/Pokes Necrophobe BACK! (Oops, I thought you were FD, your really dead, lol)
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#10 Dec 09 2005 at 5:00 PM Rating: Default
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Thanks for your help


/giggle, snort... wipes tear...

I didnt even have to say anything to convince him...

/IRONY
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#11 Dec 09 2005 at 5:13 PM Rating: Default
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just so you know the sk thats main assist that fd's to avoid a wipe is the sk that goes on almost everyones ignore list. use it only to pull, being the tank normally means you die first, so please, keep up the sk image its really been getting tarnished by some bad people lately


Any toon can be played badly, SK's do not hold the monopoly in that. Stick to your strengths, in this case your own character and how you play.
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#12 Dec 09 2005 at 8:58 PM Rating: Default
ah so you agree, that SK's should fd to avoid dieing as a tank?
/noted
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#20REDACTED, Posted: Dec 10 2005 at 6:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I think I should clarify a little about the SK FD. Of the 3 Tank classes the SK's mob would be the only one that's snared for sure. If a SK backs up off the mob run back a bit and FD at lets say 5 pct HP after waiting and not getting a heal I would say no one should blame them for that (I sure would if I had FD and can get far enough). Also if all the healers go down (casters getting initial aggro, Adds, ect) then FD to avoid dying then that I think is acceptable too. Altho I should have said that a Tank suriving a group wipe is very slim since we're usually the first one to go down.
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#21 Dec 10 2005 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
If you use FD in a group as long as there is more than 1 tank there shouldent be a prolbum. But if your in a group with a Enchanter or something who is in a big guild prepare to get alought of now so nice tell's. So that is what i have to say, 2 Tanks go ahead and FD less than that just die
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#22 Dec 12 2005 at 8:52 AM Rating: Default
I would agree that with two tanks, its fine as long as the other tank knows and is building up his agro before you do it, I know the few times I have been in a group and had two tanks, I switch to low agro weps and try to avoid any type of hate. if the MT fd'd I would still have to run around to grab agro from the chanter or casters. SK's (in my opinion) have the best generation of hate in the game, therefore groups can chain nuke and do faster damage. As far as if everyone else is dead, yes I see no issue with FD, of course I would be very curious what led up to the whole group being dead(like I said I think SK's hold the best agro)except the tank. As far as no heals coming your way, being the reason you fd, I have died because of phantom afk's on healers before, and all everyone in the group did was laugh and say its ok. I survived long enough to get the mob to 40% and it ran at 20 so everyone else survived. after hearing everyone joking about it as no big deal, I would have to agree with you FD'ing on that group would have been very satisfying.

I have seen an sk FD during poj trials at 20% the heal hit at the same time as the FD (seems he only had 6.5khp at lvl 65 fully buffed, and said he had 9k, was very noticable), and not come back till we finished (had to pet tank the mobs to death). believe you me, I have no doubts at all that there are people who play every toon badly, thats all my post was meant to say was to not use fd as an I will always survive my groups tool.
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#23 Dec 12 2005 at 12:49 PM Rating: Default
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ah so you agree, that SK's should fd to avoid dieing as a tank?
/noted
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You know, I've been a good boy lately. I havent flamed anyone (which SK's are known for). However, I will take exception in my restraint just this one time.

If you are a tank, and you witnessed said SK FD to avoid dying, I apologize for the POS SK that FD'd and left you to take over.

If you you were told that said SK FD, and were not there, you need to shut the f**k up.

If you want to compare, I have seen more groups die to the Warriors thinking that he can single pull then any SK killing groups via FD. Does that make warriors bad? No it doesnt.

A good SK uses FD the same way a monk does. I have been in positions that I knew that CH wasnt going to land and I start popping discs. If that dumass SK didnt do that, that ranks in the same realm as the Warrior-I-can-single-pull-in-POF stupidity.

Yeah, yeah, WJ is gonna spout the "you cant look good when tearing someone else down" drivel. However, as an SK... It feels good to spread hate around every once in a while.

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#24 Dec 12 2005 at 5:24 PM Rating: Default
please see post above yours, where I try to make it a little more clear, what I am talking about with reference that it did happen to me. When it did happen I was on my Mag ( I play a Mag (70) and a War (69) I play whats needed more often than insisting on being one or another). And no, I don't think that either makes me qualified to tell an SK how to play thier toon. but. I don't like to pet tank on my mag unless I am soloing. It is very dificult to control agro, with a pet, especially if you didn't know you where going to have to do it until tank drops to the floor(earth pet can hold agro best, but I never group with anything but my air pet). That was not meant to be an SK sucks post. It was someone asking about making a toon, and a prior post sounded like it was incouraging sk's to fd in order to survive thier group, my advise was that an SK who does that will go on peoples do not invite list. And as far as Wars pulling go, I only do that if the group insists, since I have no way to seperate mobs and AE taunt takes quite awhile to reset. I am not claiming Wars are better than SKs (well except for raid tanking, but thats what I have always been told). Feel free to flame whenever you want, usually I will try to clarify. Now I will SHUT THE F#$@ UP.
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#25 Dec 13 2005 at 11:49 PM Rating: Default
"If you want to compare, I have seen more groups die to the Warriors thinking that he can single pull then any SK killing groups via FD. Does that make warriors bad? No it doesnt."

And I have seen just as many die from an SK thinking they can out pull anyone else in the group, LOL.

She explained what she meant though.

I can pull just fine on my warrior, but you know what... If I get more then one I can ussually tank them both:-)
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#26 Dec 15 2005 at 6:36 PM Rating: Default
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ah so you agree, that SK's should fd to avoid dieing as a tank?
/noted
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That was an attack. No where did I say this was an acceptable practice for any SK to follow.

Nothing less then apology will change my perception of you bashing my class for the pure purpose of making yours appear superior. Type any excuse you wish. I didnt start it.

btw, you will not find in any post where I have bashed Warriors. I actually think they rock, and have defended them on SOE boards.

Edited, Thu Dec 15 18:41:03 2005 by Necrophobe
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